anyone gonna see this? as biased, and dishonest, as he is, he makes good points in all of his films, and they're usually entertaining (which is more than i can say for most documentaries). <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xlDAUKSh9CQ"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xlDAUKSh9CQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
UK is 18 huh? How come I got a dermatologist appointment in 2 weeks and most NHS derms in UK are booked for 13 weeks. And first you have to go to a Dr. to get referred. I'll stick with my plan thanks.
I'm definitely going to see it. Michael Moore is biased, no doubt about it, and his filmmaking technique seems to fall under the category "throw a whole ton of sh*t against the wall and see what sticks". He is very prone to sentimentality. However.... Michael Moore makes movies that are, in my opinion, extremely entertaining. I have seen all of his movies and some of his TV work, and I've enjoyed all of it. "Bowling For Columbine" was my favorite movie of his. It hit home with me. One more thing....realize this about "Farenheit 9-11": Everything that was prognostication, hearsay and speculation in 2004 when the movie came out is now the truth 3 years later Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I can't wait to see "Sicko".
How long does it take you to get a Derm in the UK? I talk to UK guys all the time and I know that is the wait time.
You can find the whole movie on bittorrent and (as of yesterday) google video. Great movie - and I think one of his least biased. Us healthcare is absolutely terrible.
I'll probably watch this, but I'm not sure why. I completely agree that the US healthcare system has problems, but Moore wants to make it worse. There has never been a question where the correct answer was more socialism.
If you do not have a job to help you pay for it then yes the US system is not so good. All you need is a full time job with benefits and it is one of the best systems in the world.
I'm not in the mood to get in some fruitless argument about this. Moore's point, IMHO, was summarized best by a friend of mine: Thus the conundrum.
Going to go watch it now, its been a long time coming since Mike told me he was starting on this film.. lazy screwhead.. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YdSvrz9s5ys"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YdSvrz9s5ys" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
Oh and this is completely untrue. Moore spends a lot of time explaining how people with insurance are often very, very screwed when they hit their benefit cap due to a major illness/accident. In the same vein - so-called "socialist" health plans are usually just nationalized insurance. Almost all care is still private. Still not perfect, of course (see canada's issues with medical equipment being politicized by region) - but a whole lot more equitable.
Have you done any actual research, talked to any people from the UK? Seen how screwed up this really is? I for one would not really like to A. Make an appointment with a GP wait a few weeks to see him, just to get a refered to a Derm about some crazy growth that might be cancer. Early detection being the cure and all how is it waiting for 4 months to just be seen?
i am for some sort of universal coverage. or some similar solution. having said that, i've NEVER met someone from anywhere in Europe who was happy with their system. who didn't have some wait period at some point that seemed offensive.
I have many relatives in Europe who I've never heard complain. Does this mean I'm suddenly more qualified than you to speak about this now? I never claimed it to be perfect. But to act like US healthcare is some panacea of perfection is a textbook illustration of ideological resistance in spite of facts. Medicine is a terrible fit in the free market.
I kinda doubt your singular experience is an adequate representation of the entire health care system, but thanks for demonstrating the power of apathy.
I kinda doubt the few experiences of health care being denied is the norm. ALOT of people in my family with surgeries. Never heard of a denial. How many have you heard of?
