It really was. The caps are because words were being put in my mouth and I cannot suffer that. If you reread my posts, I have been consistent. Chinese probably voted more for Yao than Shaq. From the start, it has been a 'so what' for me. The second issue is tangential. Some claimed that because of paper ballots that more Americans voted for Yao. I said that drawing that conclusion was unsupportable, and with 300,000 apparent Chinese votes, it is likely that Americans did not (for whatever that's worth). As for mentioning that 'mall' votes could very well differ from online, it is a simple mathematical/statistical concept. If you are going to attempt to infer that the composition of online population results was consistent with paper balloting, then the populations must be similar. I was showing how they may very well be different. In fact, statistically you can look at the actual results and see that they show that the underlying population are very different. Yao had what is most likely a statistically significant variance in the paper ballots, yet shaq rec'd more onlines. There are clearly differences in the two populations. Now that a 'true' Rocks fan has shared with me that 300,000 Chniese votes went to Yao, it appears that the US online voting was probably even more different than the paper ballots, and it is very unlikely that more Americans voted for Yao...again...I don't care if they didn't...but the argument that they did is not just unprovable but probably wrong. It's simple algebra at this point.
Hmmm...are you real_egal? I said that I didn't care. Constantly? I drew up one scenario to show how a some logic being thrown around was faulty. What a joke.
i think there's a difference between being soft and not being aggressive. yao is most definitely not soft. if you look from his rookie year until today, he;s only missed TWO games. factor in the international pressure and mental stress he probably endured for most of his rookie year, the year-round competitive basketball, and the pounding that people are allowed to get away with on him, and i'm pretty impressed. mentally and physically he's a tough dude. sometimes he doesn't have the aggression to throw it down when he should or make more definitive moves, but he is getting better. it's not at all because he is soft.
OK I get what you are saying now. Shaq's American votes outballoted Yao's American votes, regradless of paper or online when compared head to head for that year. Therefore, the Chinese vote, even though it was a small number of votes compared to the overall total for both big men, did play a factor in pushing Yao over Shaq by that slim margin. Everyone hear that? That is what Cohen meant to say, nothing more, nothing less. and now I will answer your much clearer standing. Yes, that is true, however the Chinese vote wouldn't have an impact if Yao wasn't already so popular in America.
In the interest of keeping the peace in the GARM, I will be the better man and not respond to this. Please see my above post.
Actually, even though it is now apparent, I did not even argue that more Americans voted for Shaq than Yao, just that with the limited data you could not make claim that more voted for Yao. I did not have the details, nor did I care. I made a light-hearted comment which on it's surface made sense and still makes sense, that more Chinese voted for their homeboy than Shaq, then followed it with the more salient comment which is that I'm glad that Yao is a Rocket and that's what matters to me. As for how this discussion progressed, maybe you do not get angry when people make assumptions about you or your beliefs and then challenge your truthfulness when you try to clarify the original comments?
Black people's skin isn't really black ...it is actually brown. Dude, it is so overtly obvious to say "Chinese people will vote for Yao" that most normal people wouldn't bother to say it unless there is an underlying point. So if you had no underlying point ...THANK YOU CAPTIAN OBVIOUS. If anybody else needs any more pearls of wisdom, feel free to ask. I got a million of them. Wanna hear my take on Jews?
Shaq's mad b/c people who care to vote (asian, black, WHATEVER) chose to vote for Yao. For whatever their reasons, Yao was found more popular among those that voted. Shaq was just jabbin back at the interviewers as if he lost the 2nd grade class president election.
Fair enough, I dont like to back down either. Though it's normally over something other than All Star voting ballots
No kidding. I can't think of much that's less important than all star ballots either. But I was not upset over that, I just didn't want to leave an impression that I cared about who voted for Yao, why, or what it 'meant'. I'm no Chucky Barkley.
Uh..ok. Heh. Unless you look at the context: Thread starter: My post: Does it really seem like I have an ulterior motive here? That is, other than making fun of the ESPN board's whiners? Something tells me...no.
