[SI: Peter King] Good read on Carr

I agree. But I also think Carr should try to get him the ball more and use him like a Steve Smith and Terrell Owens.

 

But according to the article, that's exactly what Kubes is working on with him. That's the difference. He hasn't had anyone to work with him on these type things since he's been in the NFL.

If you listen or read any quotes from him this year, he is constantly saying how much better he likes Kubiak because he actually yells at him when he does something wrong. Players want to be coached. Carr hasn't been coached since college.

 

If we are in a position to draft Brady Quinn, then a LOT of things went wrong...and I'm guessing the trade down for massive draft picks will be in play much more than it was this last draft. But, again, if we are picking #1, then there was absolutely no turnaround from last year. Frankly, even if the new coaching staff sucks, I could see this team winning 4 games or so just based on talent alone. I think, regardless of how Carr performs, Brady Quinn is pretty much out of the picture.

 

I agree with this as well... if anybody had to be "saved" on this team by the new regime, its Carr (whether it be by better coaching of the QB position, or better coaching of the offense/offensive line overall).

I just hope its not too late. No doubt had Carr either received better coaching, or had gone to a non-expansion/non-clueless direction team... he likely would have turned out better than he has thus far.

He did make some improvements (statistically) with TD-INT ratio, completion percentage, and total yardage (so its not like he's just looking more and more like he's lost out there)... but when he (and the team) was expected to make the big jump last year, it turns out EVERYBODY had their worst seasons ever (from the line, to the defense)... and he's taken much of the heat for it.

Seriously... Carr's year 3 looked pretty good... and would have looked BETTER (he was on a great pace) had teams not figured the Texans offense out around mid-season... and the coaching staff never really adjusted until they all got fired.

 

Great read...This is all I needed to read though...He's been doing that crap for years...Let's hope it sticks...

 

are you talking about the first pass to bradford where there was def. holding/interference on westbrook --38 yrd play.

 

David Carr is still a piece of sh*t. He's never won a meaningful game in his life. The whole Texans organization needs to be shaken up, torn down, and started over from scratch.

 

I remember Carr saying the same thing last year on 610 after Palmer was fired. Lets hope with the additions of Moulds etc that he has a chance to be successful.

Of course I think Kubiak should be teaching Vince but thats over so lets go Carr... prove me wrong... please.

 

How many meaningful games have we had? I can think of one he's won.

 

Yeah we he did beat the Titans once didn't he?

 

I was thinking of a game where the combined total score equals a prime number.

 

I'm not trying to rag on carr but this is an example of what I brought up in another thread. I don't know who's fault carr's lack of development is, but no one had a thing to say about his development when he started off on fire in 04. I think after eight games his rating was above 90. but I guess it couldn't have been because that was the old regime.

 

This assumes Brady Quinn is still rated as highly at this point next year. Just remember what happened with Leinart - he was supposed to be a consensus top 2 pick along with Reggie Bush, while neither Vince (for this year) or Mario Williams were even on the radar anywhere. It's not until the draft combines that doubts start creeping in.

 

A lot of the hot start in 04 had to do with the Texans fully grasping the new offense designed around the weak offensive line.... ie, a lot of wide-out passes, a lot of screen passes, a lot of conservative running, and utilizing the play action when the defense was geared for the run. It tried to minimize our biggest weakness (the line), and exploit our strengths (D. Davis' pass catching ability, and A. Johnson's speed/power after he caught the ball).

Why do you think Carr's sack total went down so drastically? Do you think the line just allofasudden got better?

But, around mid-season, the scouting report on that offense started to spread... and it was pretty clear (by the last game) that the league had gotten a pretty good read on our "vast playbook".

The inability to counter adjustments made by opposing defense was a big problem of the previous regime... or maybe they tried to implement a new offense, but the O-line was still not talented enough to adapt to it. These were all problems.... all of them well substantiated and well documented. Penders coming on may have added "intensity" to practices, but even that doesn't mask the severe lack of talent up front.

 

Too bad games are won by 50+ person teams and not individual players; otherwise you might have a really valid point.

 

I'm no Carr apologist, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with a better line, more weapons and a coach that understands quarterbacks. He has all the tools and he is tough as hell. He's been brutalized out there the first few seasons and still took it. He isn't soft. That's for sure.

Whether or not he has the intangibles to make all the right decisions or the confidence to carry a team, I don't know. Those are the things nnone of us could determine in the previous regime. He had very little chance to succeed. It's clear the guy wants to win and will take risks to do it. It's clear he can take hit after hit after hit and stay out there. He obviously wants to win. Those are all good signs.

I just am not sure yet if he has the intangible qualities he needs to lead a team from his position. I hope he does, but we'll know more when this season is done.

 

Don't pay attention to Baqui99. He's just pissed because the Texans didn't draft you-know-who...

 

YOU-KNOW-WHO? what positon does he play ?