SI.com reports that Houston is interested in moving up in the draft to nab Kanter

Ahhh thanks for clarifying. Makes sense now.

 

Yeah but does any of Kanters coaches ever say in an interview, "I dream of a center that can rebound!"? Brooks coaches do.

 

Kanters the most intresting man in the world. When he goes swiming he does not need swim trunks, he walks on water.

 

Bad Contract for Higher Pick in 2011 Draft

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

I think we should be considering taking on a "bad contract" to move up in the draft like Cleveland did taking the Clippers pick. So since now they have the first pick and most likely draft Kyrie Irving, Baron Davis is not needed. If we traded them Scola, 23rd pick, and Hill and/or T.Williams for Baron Davis and 4th pick of this year's draft it could be a win win situation. They get 1 sure fire starter in Scola at PF, could move Jamison to SF or the bench, Varejao come back to play Center, Williams at the either SG or SF and Irving at PG. They could get a rotational player with the 23rd pick. I would like the Rockets to keep the 14th pick and pick up Donatas Motiejunas. He has had comparisons to Dirk and Bargnani. I am not saying he will be as good as either but the potential is there and he would be a walking mismatch problem. Take some time to adjust to the NBA but if he pans we could have Kanter, Motiejunas, 2012 lotter pick SF(Barnes, Jones III, Q.Miller, etc.), Martin, and Lowry as your starters. If Yao comes back...bonus...but this is a plan for the future regardless if he doesn't come back.

 

Redo link for trade for 2011 draft pick

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3l9j8k6

Whoops! Redid the link for the trade. This is just a base...not would I think would be the final trade but can't trade picks and/or money so...yeah.

 

Every 7 foot Europlayer is gonna turn out like Dirk.....Dont get the infatuation with these players overseas.... They may be talented, the NBA is a whole different animal........From the analysis expert posts are givin, he seems to be the type of player that will give you the same production in 40 minutes as he would in 25-30 minutes(Landry)....Nice piece to help build, but not a building block ...And definitely not enought to salvage our DHoward aspirations.....

 

I love a) his shooting range and b) his amazing stamina (21 minute treadmill hill sprints is ridiculous).

I don't love a) his injury concerns and b) his lack of length/pure athleticism.

I think a front line of Enes and PPat would become championship-caliber with the addition of one more complimentary guy like a Tyson Chandler. The thought of the former two picking and popping all day makes me smile.

 

Another thing to consider... Morey and his scouts play it very close to the vest. There was not a lot of rumors concerning Artest before the Rockets got him... Brooks and Landry both were surprises.... there was no talk of Patterson prior to the Rockets getting him....

The Knicks trade was "discussed" in the media prior to completion but it was leaked by the Knicks, and the Rockets were not too happy. The Martin deal was fairly hush-hush....

So, it leads me to believe Kanter won't be coming to Houston.... every year we hear the Rockets like: Cousins, Kanter, etc... yet nothing substantive happens... I think it is a decoy by the Rockets... I think they like another foreign big man.

 

We don't need a superstar center, we just need a plus center. Even Rony Seikaly was a plus center. We need a plus center without gutting our team to get him. Scola, as much as we love him, could go, because PPat is going to end up being even better.

But we can't give up TOO much on a gamble.

I watched on video mix of the guy, the world game whatever it was, and he definitely plays with fire and ability. He rebounds hard, but I didn't see defense, and if you had said 'watch this video, and then afterward tell me how tall you think the guy is', I would guess maybe 6' 8" or something .. he doesn't 'play big', which is kind of what we need, especially defensively.

Would he be a great addition to pretty much any team? Yeah, from the little I saw, he definitely looks like the same kind of player the Rockets have been adding repeatedly over the last few years - a bit undersized, but smart and all hustle.

But as many people have repeated ad-nauseum, that is not how you get over the hump to contend for a title.

I would love to get the guy, but I think it would REALLY be a big mistake to give up the farm for him. Give up the farm for Howard? Fine. But not for a Euro gamble.. Euro gambles should not cost that much.

I am almost ready to accept the idea of trading for future picks and tanking... sigh...

 

I really like this idea and the money seems to work. The only problem is i don't think Kanter will make it past #3. So i would target the #2 pick with something like this( probably won't be this easy )....

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3d2cfva

Throw in #23 and #38 picks and see what happens.

 

Donatas Motiejunas

Enes Kanter looks legit. He will be a huge upgrade over center. I think Donatas Motiejunas would be a steal at #14. He is comparable to Bargnani who went #1 in 2006. If Donatas Motiejunas is as good as Bargnani then we could be golden for the future. Front court of Kanter, Donatas Motiejunas, Patterson, and Thabeet if he pans out would be deadly. Add Hayes for defense and we are straight...if all things pan out.

Dwight Howard is NOT coming here. What does Orlando want that we have via trade? If he is a free agent what do we have that would make him sign with the Rockets? I just don't see it. I don't believe he is going to the Lakers either because he could go only by trade and Orlando would be foolish to give him up for ANYONE that the Lakers have! That includes Kobe. If he is traded Orlando need to set themselves for the futue not get Bynum and trash for the best center in the league not named a healthy Yao Ming.

 

I want to draft Enes Kanter, Jeremy Tyler, and Marshon brooks.
if we pair tyler and enes together we would have a very good and youthful frontcourt plus enes is more of a pf and if we have to give up martin and scola or either one of them we can draft these guys

 

Kanter before 4th pick

coachbadlee...I am glad someone likes the direction I am referring to. You think the Wolves or Jazz will draft Kanter? I don't think they will but I think a team could trade up for Kanter for one of their picks. Wolves have Darko, Love, Beasly...Kanter is plausible. Darko isn't great and Kanter would be a upgrade but Center is not a need. They need a SG...bad. That is why I see all the Kevin Martin trades for the pick. I don't think Darko's contract is that bad that they need to get rid of him and their lottery pick. Utah has Jefferson, Milsap, Okur, and Fesenko. Kanter would be a upgrade but they are deeper then Minnesota at the front court and need wing players as well. Derek Williams seems like the consensus 2nd pick and Utah from rumors is fasinated with Brandon Knight. Kanter is projected 4th and that's why I suggested getting Cleveland's 4th pick.

 

Looking @ Kanter's Nike Hoops summit game, where he scored a bunch, he reminds me of a taller Scola (plays below the rim quite a bit, nice mid-range stroke), which is fine. But I'd like to see him go up against bigger guys than the ones in the video. His competition looked smallish (6ft 8ish) or rail thin.

Great hands, good body control, nice rebounder, nice touch. I would like to see more tho. If anyone has more in depth videos, please link it.

 

The great thing about that game is he played only 21 minutes and had a very sore back. So much so that he had to take pain medication.

 

I hope that you are right about him getting past the 1st three picks. The further he moves down the better chance we have of getting him without giving up too much and possibly keeping that 14th pick.

 

His Youtube videos look good, that's all I need

 

For what it's worth, Zach Randolph and Luis Scola have renewed my faith in the effectiveness of below the rim players. Having a jump shot really helps.

 

I don't think you even have to offer that much of a trade to get high in the draft(well maybe with the Twolves who tend to overvalue their target's effectiveness). Most everyone is predicting this as a good draft for role players but not stars but what good is a role player making high draft pick money going to do for the Twolves of the world? Nothing. If they don't see "star" potential in their pick, they should just trade down and attempt to pick up a future draft pick in the lotto...of course these are for the most part the poorly run teams in the league who have this choice to make so you know....

Houston would seem to have some bit of currency with the desirability of their future draft picks in today's market given the perception of their chances in the future by most in the league. I could see Houston trading a future pick if they could get high enough in this year's draft to get Kanter. In my mind, 6'11" guys who are willing to work hard and keep such a strong work out regiment even while not playing are VERY rare.

I think Kanter is a solid target for Houston. You don't need to have a star big man to make it in this league - this year's playoffs are proof of that. You just need a group of solid role players at the 4/5 and I think if nothing else Kanter will be a solid role player and could help Houston immediately if he was just solid and played a full season.

 

really? I've thought the opposite. He shows great ability to position himself down low with a natural ability to rebound. He will be a 10+ rebound guy within the first couple of seasons. His shot blocking is where I'm worried, he doesnt have that extra lift in his legs and seems like more of a below the rim guy. Just a thought from what I've seen.