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SI Article: "LeBron's Decision Could Redefine Greatness"

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Icehouse, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. Raven

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    Big $$$ Media is already working to restore LeChoke's image. Disgusting.
     
  2. napalm06

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    Your first statement sounds like you're implying that his only two choices were stay in Cleveland or join Miami.

    Your second statement suggests that there is no pride to be gained from sticking with the team that groomed you. On the contrary; there is more pride to be gained from pulling that team as high as you can, and less from joining a team where it will forever be debated. That's just how it is.

    Eventually it turned out that Cleveland was poorly run from the top down, so it made sense for him to leave. Did he do it in a respectable way? That's the question.

    But really, what's with the dramatics? Do you identify with a narcissistic millionaire in some way?
     
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  3. Steve_Francis_rules

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    It's absolutely true that management didn't provide him with proper help. You're right that he may have been somewhat to blame because they only made the moves he approved, but in the end, it is management's job to put the talent around their star player, not the player's job.

    MJ disagreed with several of the key personnel decisions the Chicago Bulls made in putting a championship cast around him, most notably the Charles Oakley trade. But they made those moves anyway because they knew it was best for the franchise. The Cavs would have been much better off if they had done the same.
     
  4. Icehouse

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    LeBron, Gasol, Odom, Bynum - likely championship

    Same for Durant, Wade, Howard, Melo, Paul, etc. But Kobe gets a pass because he cried for help via trade threats, as opposed to leaving as a free agent? Help is help.
     
  5. Easy

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    I think one thing about the Lebron has not been mentioned enough. Lebron was consulted in EVERY Cavaliers personnel move. So if his excuse was that the front office wasn't doing enough to give him an adequate supporting cast, then Lebron has to share a big chuck of that blame himself.
     
  6. GreatOne1978

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    Kobe still busted his azz before and after the trade demands regardless of his teammates. Cant say that for Lebron. He quit in a pivotal game 5 at home with the series tied and he ran away from the pressure in game 6 and also quit in the last 3 minutes of the game.
     
  7. Easy

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    Disagreed. True, the front office is responsible for the moves. And I think the Cavs management was a wuss in yielding too much to Lebron. BUT you can't have it both ways. You can't boss around and demand the management to satisfy with your personnel opinions and then turn around and say that they didn't do enough of a good job to provide what you need.
     
  8. Shaud

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    And before that trade Kobe quit in a Game 7 according to most people.


    Soooooo
     
  9. GreatOne1978

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    who are these most people you speak of? He didn't quit.
     
  10. Shaud

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    A lot of NBA fans and some of the media said Kobe quit in the 2nd half of the Phoenix game.

    Just like everyone is saying Bron quit in the last game against Boston.
     
  11. GreatOne1978

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    ^ theres a short tid bit of the article that pretty much sums up that Kobe "quit" game
     
  13. Shaud

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    What you posted didn't prove anything.

    You can post the same thing about LeBron's teammates than to shoot down the accusations of him quitting.
     
  14. GreatOne1978

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    Not even the same. Lebron quit (at home mind you with the series tied & did it again in Boston) and Kobe didnt
     
  15. Shaud

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    I'm pretty sure the Lakers and Phoenix series was tied at 3.

    Kobe only took 2 shots in the 2nd half right?

    I can only imagine if LeBron did that.
     
  16. GreatOne1978

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    Obviously you didn't read the article I posted. The formula to beating the suns when the Lakers getting the lead in the series was to get the teammates involved. Game 6 he got 50 but they lost. Game 7 he started out on a scoring clinic again, it didn't make a difference as they still trailed 20+ and the article shows the amount of times he went into his teammates, the amount of double and triple teams he attracted to get open looks for his mates and yet they couldn't cut into the deficit.
     
  17. MemphisX

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    LMAO...Ifind it funny that LeBron has been the best player in the league the last two years, yet now he isn't the best on his team. Ok, if that works for you.

    People forget that when Miami win their title despite the legend of Wade, Shaq was 1st team All NBA that year not Wade.

    It all makes for a good story though...
     
  18. GreatOne1978

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    And its not the same. Lebron was at home in a favorite surrounding while Kobes Lakers were on the road. Lebron's team were the better team in the season while Kobe's Lakers weren't against the Suns. Lebron's team had plenty of experience while Kobe's Lakers didn't. Lebron goofed up and he quit when the going got tough
     
  19. cardpire

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    why are people so mad at this? the televised announcement is the only objectionable thing he did. everybody is just jealous that the heat are getting him. you don't hear any miami fans complaining.

    this is probably the most interesting thing to ever happen to the nba. they are going to be traveling like the Beatles when they are on the road, and fans should be treated to insane highlight reels every night that they play.

    props to lebron for making his own decisions and not giving a **** what the rest of the world thinks.
     
  20. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Perhaps a Lebron apologist will go back and watch the game tape three years from now when he's restored his good name and claim that he didn't quit in game 5 against the Celtics. He did. So did Kobe in that game 7.
     

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