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[SI] Adelman, Yao bad fit, team may shop Yao this summer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JoeBarelyCares, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. Jaingfang

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    They think we would get rid of Yao, one of the leauges best of the few centers in this leauge so we could get one that adapts to Adelman better?! Are you kidding me? Wow, if they ever lose Yao they lose millions in sponsorhips and fans. But if they get rid of Rick....they really lose nothing. It's not only an obvious basketball choice to keep him, but a business choice, jeez, I truly wonder who that eastern conferencce "scout" said that.
     
  2. Kracka0476

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    Bingo
     
  3. Raven

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    Yeah, I think there might be some truth to that.
     
  4. meh

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    This is BS. How can anyone who watch the Rockets feel that Yao's under-utilized? He may have lower raw numbers, but that has more to do with how many weapons we have more than anything else. And Yao has never been so efficient ever before in his career.
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    I think the 'insider' is right though.

    We'd be CRAZY to not ask around.

    Who knows what some teams are willing to give up. Some cash strapped team like New Orleans may even give up young superstars (one in particular) because they know the money Yao brings and how great of a player he is.

    If we were to get a offer for a young superstar like CP3...I'd honestly do it.

    The only players I can see that won't get traded for Yao are Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Howard because he's younger and plays the same position...every other all-star I can see happening...

    I mean if they do ask around just be quiet about it, don't want to make Yao mad.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Funny thing. . . . before JVG
    . . Yao was a 'face the basket, Facilitating" center
    His jumper was money
    He was a bit of a dynamic passer
    and . . . I recall folx [like me] b*tching about JVG not utilizing all his tools
    now
    We are being told he cannot do that ??/???


    Total and complete bull*****

    Rocket River
     
  7. Setuablaz3

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    Yao has declined contract extensions and as amazing the team has been, still hasn't looked like being a sure thing in the near future. With clock ticking down, he will need to see how teams shape up around the league. I still think he will stay in Houston but he just wants to see who comes to him with what.

    On the other hand Rockets will need to take care of themselves too. Yao-Rockets marriage has been long enough and it hasn't worked. Maybe there comes a point where you have to move on. Great city and great player but maybe its not meant to be. Post season result will dictate some major change in long term plans. So lets hope its going to be a mighty fine one.
     
  8. conquistador#11

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    I think those GMs in the east are watching the boxscores and also noticing the 7 shot attempts by yao. What they don't know is that yao is the true definition of team player.

    But I will always be a follower of dream's ideals.. To be doohminant, ball must go through big man. Yeah, i get frustrated when i see someone jack up a 3 pointer without feedind yao or scola first.
     
  9. Kwame

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    That article is garbage. Who cares what a few anonymous sources who probably want to make an issue out of nothing think? Also, it's clear to any rational individual that JVG only coached one end of the floor.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    Yep. Rockets as a organization have to think about their future. We know the HUGE draw Yao has become, that and his talent make him a HUGE trading asset.

    I love Yao, but if we have a chance at getting a young superstar...i'd do it. I've already mentioned the untrade-able guys. Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Howard because he's younger and plays the same position.

    If Yao doesn't step up in the playoffs this season, I think it's in the team best interest to look ahead to the future, whether that be trading Yao or trading Tmac for someone who can really help Yao.
     
  11. worzel gummidge

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    so an eastern conference team is either after yao or adelman?
     
  12. JoeBarelyCares

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    David Stern called. If we trade Yao to NY for Curry and Jeffries, he will guarantee our ping pong balls will pop up first in consecutive draft lotteries [right after Memphis and Minnesota win their promised lotteries for the Gasol and Garnett trades].
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    :D

    Heh, then Lebron will go to NY WITH Wade...we'd get CP3 with this some how.
     
  14. RocketJoe

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    Yao isn't and won't go anywhere. End of story.
    Yao Ming has literally a billion followers. A billion. A billion consumers in this economy = $$$
    Les is getting richer by the second by having Yao here, why in the world would he get rid of him?

    Plus.. Yao is different from all these other chest pumping stars that we are used to. He is LOYAL. Its a seldom used word that was lost somewhere in between the days of $100 million dollar Juwon Howard deals through And 1 Mix tape 247.
     
  15. shioew

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    General speaking, the coachs will be the one who first to go while either coachs

    or players have to leave.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, Yao is a cash cow...but at the same time it's said that Kobe sells more jerseys in China than Yao.

    Winning brings in more money, Celtics and Lakers have found this out. Winning = bandwagon fans = hype(advertisements and such) = money.

    Yao ain't getting any younger. If we have another bad playoff performance Rox need to ask themselves if they are in it for the money or if they are in it to win. Not saying trade Yao...but I think it's silly not to find out privately what you could get for him.
     
  17. GermanRoxFan

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    i've said it earlier and i'll say it again, it was a bad decision by les to fire jvg and to hire adelman instead. les lost his patience while completely ignoring his own mistakes (not enough talent around yao and t-mac.). he wanted adelman because he thought we could play like the suns. he totally ignored that with t-mac and yao as his franchise players this really would be a bad idea. that was the first bad decision. the other one was to hire adelman. adelman is really a great coach and i'm sure he's on the same level as jvg. but adelman is a system coach. he has his own system and needs the right players to make it work. yao and t-mac are not those kind of players. that should be obvious for everyone.

    if les really wanted adelman's system he should have traded mcgrady and yao right away. if les wanted to maximize the potential of his two franchise players a strong defense and an inside out halfcourt offense with t-mac handling the ball almost every time is (or better was) the way to go.

    right now we have much more talent on the roster but adelman had to change his system to make it work and at the end of the day we're still not really a better team than in the past.


    but i can't imagine the rockets are even thinking about trading yao. even though he won't bring you any playoff success in the current nba on his own he's still a great player and an even better cash cow. it's like clutch said, the only way the rockets will trade yao is if he wants to be traded. yao is very loyal so i doubt that's gonna happen.
     
  18. tested911

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    Hypothetical situation.. What if the Cavs knew they couldn't resign Lebron and that they wanted something in return.

    Yes the Cavs has a center but doesn't produce like Yao and doesn't have the recognition like Yao.

    I would trad Yao and Artest for Lebron.. It's not like for like talent because I think Yao and Artest is better overall than Lebron. But Lebron gives you that dynamic scorer and real greatness talent we have been lacking since Hakeem left.

    Would the Cavs do it? Think about it they would get a cash cow filler for a cash cow. What other NBA player can give so much back to the franchise other than Yao.. Plus with Artest they get a hard nose 15+ 7+ guy + Defense. They might actually be a better team with Artest and Yao than with Lebron. They allready have a great PG who can distribute the ball.
     
  19. Hayesfan

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    No, they wouldn't
     
  20. TheFreak

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    Anyone who would say Yao Ming is under-utilized hasn't watched many games, or even bothered to check the numbers. It's that simple.

    I also like how since Adelman had success with good high post guys, that people assume that's all he wants to have. I'd like to see one quote that supports that.
     

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