Should've never traded Rudy Gay. Morey never would've never made that trade.

That stat is relative to the team, which is probably kind to gay. That means that despite how horrible memphis is defensively, they were even WORSE when rudy was on the court.

 

LOL. People complaining about talking about this subject so many times yet it went for 1 page to 5 in less then two hours.

I for one thought for one this trade was a mistake. Now if we had even went to the western conference finals then maybe the trade was worth it, but flash foward 3 years we now have a 30 year old dude thats losing his mojo and Rudy Gay is just beginning to scratch the surface of what he can do. I also believe this trade would look even worst if it wasn't for them drafting OJ Mayo and him taking shots away for Gay. Otherwise he would be easily averaging 25 a game.

 

From what i have seen, Marc Gasol is a pretty good defender. He's definitely a much better defender compare to his older brother. Pau was never a good defender even until these days. He's an average defender at best. He did get the best acting award from me quite a few times tho :grin:

 

Again, you're posting in the present tense, yet you're talking about data from last year...Isn't there data available for this year?

 

average 25 a game while giving up 9 more points on daily basis. Therefore he's only averaging 14.00 a game max with 2 blks.

 

we know what he can do, he is a taller version of ricky davis.

 

while giving up 9 more points whenever he's on the court.

 

RV6, despite what people may think about my postings, i think shane is a good basketball player and has been one for a while now. I guess what really gets the toast burning is when posters can automatically assume that players don't get better and mature. Morey has said himself that rudy got better faster than we forecast. thats doesn't mean shane is a bad player or rudy will become a all star, its just tell me they had doubts and at the time they felt close. I think by nature morey is a low risk type of guy and thats cool i guess. I think at the time, he wanted a for sure thing on the team. He saw a chance to get a pro's pro and not deal with the upside/downside of a lotto pick. I can understand it to that point, but its also a portion in management teams gamble and win or lose. the spurs did so and won and so did the lakers, but there are teams that have lost bigtime. I do know this from trends and watching basketball awhile, i don't think jerry west would've ever made a trade like that.

 

Memphis would become a team like the Wizards who can easily score 120 pts per night and still lose while the rockets has been a team like spurs who can score 80 pts and still win. period

 

Yep, 1st rd exits and wanting to be traded. A player cant complain about not having help one minute and then crying when he has it the next.

 

Yep, and the rockets have been to the conf finals so much we're getting bored.

 

-He's playing 40 minutes to get 20 ppg.

-He averages 1.7 assists in all those minutes and has a negative A/TO ratio.

-His defense sucks.

-Memphis didn't pay up and extend his contract.

He isn't bad, but Battier is far more valuable.

 

So? People say Battier is a good defender yet everytime he plays against a elite player he gets raped for 30 or more points. And his first year here in the playoffs when we were playing against the Jazz I forgot what game it was but we needed a stop to get back in the game and he let Matt Harpring of all people score on him.

 

Well said man.

 

There are 8 best teams from each conferences to contend for the title in the playoff. For more than 10 years the West was more talented than the East, therefore you cannot compare the 1st round exit in the east to the one in the west.

 

this year he is better, defensive rating only +1.22

 

There are 8 teams that make the playoff, but realistically only about 3 are contenders, maybe 4 if you think about it. The rox haven't been contenders since 97 no matter what conference their in.

 

i was with ya until that last part...like you said, some times teams take a gamble and it works out, sometimes it doesn't. Morey didn't want the gamble and went a safe route...however, that needs to apply to West as well. He doesn't always gambe and "win", by you saying he wouldnt make that trade, in other words a "bad trade", which is what i think you meant, you imply he always gets it right, so let me remind you once again West actually wanted Morrison instead of Gay. Morrison was his #1 target and after he couldn't trade for him he went after Gay. He was trying to gamble big either way, sometimes you're good, sometimes you're lucky. In this case he was more lucky than good, imagine if Charlotte would have accepted his deal...

And There's SA, they won on their gamble before, yet lost out on the scola gamble, and so far may lose out on the jefferson gamble, so being that kind of GM isn't always better than Morey's approach...all i can say is appreciate it for what it is, we may not like that he doesn't swing for the fence every time, but he always seems to get on base at the very least, whic means you always have a chance, which can't be said if you strike out swinging hard..

 

Scoring on a guy's different from scoring against the team. He's not just a good 1 on 1 defender but he's a GREAT team defender. How many times have you seen Shane forced great players like Kobe, LBJ into the traps in the past? How many charges has he draw from his career? Kobe himself said Shane's the best defender in the league. Kobe just has his number and average around 30pts against Shane despite having a hand in his face on most of his shots. The fact is that most of the time the lakers don't even need kobe to score 30 to win a game against the rest of the league because of their 95 mils payroll. To sum it up, Shane and rox co. are the reason why kobe HAS to score at least 30 to win a game against the rox because rox are a great TEAM DEFENSIVE team. Many different defensive schemes where Shane would just scream out at the defensive end are the one of the main reason why the rockets had maintain their defensive prowness for the past years.