Actually if you bothered to watch the game yesterday and on friday, you'd know that Yao didn't get good calls. He just got better calls than he normally does. For example during the Suns game, in the first, he had his feet planted and Amare Stoudemire jumped into him, bricked the shot and got bailed out. 2FTs, first foul on Yao. In the fourth quarter he tried to do the same thing and didn't get calls. They were, in other words... THE RIGHT CALLS. I give credit to Yao for staying out of trouble. I also give Bowen and Wes for taking away 2 fouls that would have been on Yao. They fouled the Suns' players barely before Yao did, hence taking away his foul. But none of them were deciding factors the way the refs were. And I already assessed the 82games stats. Try to read that. It's pathetic you actually have the balls to come back after being owned. Just bend over backwards and take it up the ass. And there is no league conspiracy as far as I'm concerned, but there is inconsistent reffing, many times it's subcontious. If you actually took an introductory psychology course you'd know it exists in everyone.
I think we should close all threads with the words LeBron James in the title and or pages of the thread. This is a holy place, we dare not speak that name here.
I see, so your argument is "Yao never commits fouls and always gets fouled and when he gets called it is t3h w0r57 0ff1c181ng 3var" You can take that back over to Yao-ming-mania.net or wherever you came from and you'll find some more sympathetic ears I'm sure...... as for the rest I think the fact that you've had to resort to "take it up the ass" indicates that you're pretty much out of ammo and I've proven my point. Thanks, it's been fun.
It has been interesting reading this thread. We wouldn't be real fans if we didn't b*tch and wh*ne about the officiating. It's what sportsfans do. We're not being paid by someone to be objective. Just because, someone thinks that Yao gets some bad calls doesn't make them a YOF. Yao does get shafted a by the refs. No - there is no league-wide conspiracy to keep him down. If he did the same things his defender did to him, he'd probably foul out a lot more. It is difficult officiating him because he's so big. The natural inclination is to call the foul on the big guy. The refs wiill adjust in time and Yao will be getting his "star" treatment very soon.
considering your stance i assume your being sarcastic. his peers(read: opposing players) are going to be every bit as biased and more then a fan. i don't think someone playing against him is saying to the media, "hey that guy yao, he needs to go to the line some more, i mean look at me i'm fouling the crap out of him and he only went to the line 6 times."
Actually Sam, I'd like to see where I said Yao never commits fouls. Yao committing fouls isn't my gripe, because that's part of the game. Yao getting fouls when he didn't commit then doesn't get the same treatment is what I'm complaining about. It's funny how when you get owned you always revert back to the YOF argument. It's sad really.
Seems like it says he plays inside as much as Yao or more, nothing about banging. I've never quite understood the argument that Yao is a finesse player. Next to Shaq, sure. But Yao plays pretty physically. Foster is more athletic, and as such, *probably* plays inside more due to his athleticism and not phsyical play.
...for which you have no evidence exists to an extent that would make him unique among his peers. None.
Pot calling kettle black. Every one of your so called evidence has been debunked, so we are in the same boat. Which is why you started to resort to YOF.
Debunked? Kiddo, you've zero in your corner. Yao is among the very best players in the league at drawing fouls, and the evidence shows it. Yao is treated almost identical to Shaq & other NBA centers when it comes to committing fouls, and the evidence shows it. All available objective evidence indicates that your claims can't be verified and are the rantings of biased observers, whether YOFs or ROFs or whatever, and you have done nothing to change that perception other than come up with a few banal insults "Because they're whiney little b****es" "because your head is up your ass" etc. Now i suggest you continue to direct your ire towards Jorge in the other thread where you have a much better prospect of success.
Why does JVG think differently about how the refs treat Yao? Didn't he send in a some sort of protest-tape illustrating instances when he felt that Yao was being treated unfairly? I don't think he's ever done such a thing for other centers. Is Van Gundy just a no-good YOF? I suppose so since he also wants Yao to get more shot attempts..
I don't recall him sending in such a tape, but anyway, this would make him one of the 100% of all NBA coaches who feel that they get screwed by the officials. I don't believe whining loudly and publicly like that is JVG's style (as it is for some other coaches) anyway - which is something that i respect. Coaches and owners like Jackson or Cuban who publicly whine about this kind of thing tend to be a little grating.
It certainly seemed like Yao drawing a lot of fouls. Doesn't mean Yao should not get to the line more often. Just watch closely at how the other team's big men handle Yao when he doesn't have the ball. Refs are not gonna call those fouls like when guys wrestling Yao or just wrap the arms around his waist, holding his arm down when fighting for a rebound. I doubt calling out the refs does any good. All we got to do is have Yao learned from Mutumbo and how he's able to fight back and not get called a foul when people man-handle you. I'm not for violence and fighting but sometimes Yao just got to kick some butts and if get rejected so be it. Yao needs to shed the nice guy image and start dishing out physical punishment for people playing dirty, Shaq was able to do that.
Like the time I set a hard pick and absolutely lay out a guy because he was elbowing me in the back repeatedly when I was playing pick up.
Now now Sam, I see you are following me around like a little school girl. You know, I really am not flattered by all this attention I'm getting. As for banal insults, if I recall correctly, you were the one that tried to first demonstrate your superior mathematical ability. Of course, the problem is when you do that, you better be damn sure you didn't make some stupid little mistakes. And you didn't do that, which went a long way towards proving that you don't have superior ability in any shape, way or form. All the while, I didn't insinuate to have superior mathematical or reading comprehension skills. Nope. I just sat on my ass until one of your own claims came back to bite you in the ass. So I guess I should really be proud of owning your ass, because you did all the work.
I believe he did say he sent in tapes on how being treated poorly. Not saying that makes him unique, but given that you haven't heard anything about this for T-Mac, or in the last 5 years for Francis or Mobley (and they always thought they were getting screwed). Both sides of this argument seem fair. But, as subjective as it is, the Rockets have 2 all-stars, 5 starters, and a couple of bench players getting significant minutes, and, while you can say there have been bad calls all around, only with Yao does it seem like a real screw-job.
