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Should we trade for Tinsley??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BigPun662, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. BigPun662

    BigPun662 Member

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    exactly, a great PG WHEN healthy. he's not a scorer/shooter like rafer but i think we have enough of those.
     
  2. DrJB25

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    1) Yes you are a rafer hater.
    2) Tinsley is not an upgrade. You seem to be the only person that thinks that.
    3) Rafer ran the show last year and put up solid numbers. That was not a fluke.
    4) There were plenty of people that had chances besides rafer. Rick allow Luther, AB, and Mike James to have a crack and Rafer was the best player.
    5) In addition to being a Rafer hater, you are a Tmac Hater. Tmac did not throw anyone under the bus. Steve's knees threw Steve under the bus
    6) No need to comment on relating Rafer to Bush. That's obviously ridiculous

    There is 1 thing I will agree with you on. I agree that our weakest position is PG. However, Tinsley is not the answer. He would make a nice back up though. He had 1 good season about 4 years ago and has been injury prone ever since. He has more health issues then Tmac or Yao.
     
  3. DrJB25

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    haha, I never agree with this guy but will agree on this notion.
     
  4. BigPun662

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    1) Yes I can't stand rafer at times but ive learned to live with since that's all we have. i think i hate head more, i mean luther head.
    2) I said he's a minor upgrade at least in size and play making ability. you cant argue that.
    3) He should put up good numbers. He has had the keys to one of the tops teams in the league. i bet you think he would run the team better than nash or paul.
    4) luther is not a pg, james is not a pg and brooks is too small. Luther is a turnover waiting to happen. Rafer is a decent PG. I might take Rondo over him after what i saw in the finals.
    5) Tmac said it in an interview after those losses with stevie running the team. go find it. he said we need rafer back because he's the only one that can run the team or he makes this team "go". something along those lines.
    6) you're obviously a republican

    im glad you agree with me on the point guard issue. i just feel, and i hope im wrong, that we cant get to the finals with rafer running the show. he gave me hope last year but unfortunately got hurt in the playoffs and plus we were without yao. prove me wrong rafer.
     
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    Stephon Marbury is more good tinsley ;)
     
  6. homershy

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    Tinsley is not the key
     
  7. DrJB25

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    You are just making assumptions now. I actually do not believe or agree w/ any of your statements. And for the record, I am not Republican. When I said its ridiculous, I mean it is ridiculous to bring up politics and try to relate it to basketball. You read what I wrote out of context and made your own elaborate theories on why I wrote what I wrote. It guess you are impeccably talented at misinterpreting information considering you probably took Tmac's statement out of context as well.

    Your suggestion is terrible and if you can't tell that the majority of the clutch fans agree you are either blind, good at "misinterpreting information" (something you are definitely graceful at), or you are too egotistical to admit this is a crap idea.

    I will no longer reply to your post being it is safe for me to assume that you are cognitively impaired and have no functional capacity to interpret what I am trying to say.
     
  8. Rover16

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    What the hell is wrong with you people. First some people wanted marbury and now people want tinsley?!
     
  9. saleem

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    I agree. It doesn't make sense to go after these guys.
     
  10. maarrrtiin

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    tinsley is a sorrier version of marbury. and i would not want the rockets to trade tinsley for alston straight up because they're similar players statistically, but tinsley is a bigger more physical pg who drives to the hoop more, while rafter is more of a shooter. we need more shooters on our team as tmac yao and artest will clog up the lanes and need someone to dish the ball out to. im not saying rafer is one of the better shooters in the nba, because hes really streaky, but hes a better shooter than tinsley and he is a better fit for our team. plus according to what i have been reading, i believe tinsley is going to make more money than rafer, so thats another reason i wouldnt do the deal straight up. no need to dump all of our contracts + rafer for tinsley + scrubs with low pay because we dont want to sacrifice our talent for money, we have a great oppurtunity to win now and should try to focus on making our team better, not to try to get below the tax line.
     
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    no, no, no

    rafer offers more positives than tinsley ever will.

    now francis + head for tinsley? now i'm listening.
     
  13. maarrrtiin

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    contracts aside, i would not even do luther head for tinsley. now i know everyone on this forum hates head, as i use to also, but then i realized luther head use to be a decent player on our team. he started to suck when he was forced to create and put the ball on the floor, which would end up in bone head turnovers. but if he sticks to shooting, he isn't THAT bad...the reason i wouldn't do head for tinsley is because i think we have enough ball handlers (alston brooks tmac barry). what we need more of is shooters like head and battier who can create space for yao tmac and artest to work. im gonna make a bold statement and say that luther head will have an efficient OFFENSIVE year this upcoming year IF our playmakers stay healthy. head doesnt have the highest basketball IQ, but im sure he'll realize he doesnt have to do anything but shoot with players like yao artest tmac and alston creating...
     
  14. Alvin Choo

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    i take tinsley----- who is in his rookie season. Now that is one heck of a player.

    Now, no thanks, with the size of his contract, the problem in his mind, his 24/7 injury( he makes tmac looks like iron man).

    marbury on the other hand is whole different matter. His getting old, but he is still getting his numbers and apparently getting in shape. If he is availabe like SF3 for the veteran min, his value for money. Chuck him with the 2nd unit, whoever that may be. Surround him with players like Battier, barry, hayes and harris. He can play iso at every possesion, i have no problem with that, as long as its in limited minutes.
     
  15. Yao#1

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    You said it with your fourth point. If a team can win the finals with Rondo at PG then a team can win it with Rafer at point guard. What you need is the other players to be exceptional and now we have that.

    Rafer's role will be totally different this year. You said he ran one of the best teams in the league last year. That was true only when Yao and Landry were healthy. Once Yao went down, Rafer became the second scoring option. This year there is a good chance he will be the fifth option to score (Yao, Tmac, Artest, Scola)

    More importantly, Tinsley is a bum. You can not question Rafer's fitness or his energy and attitude. Tinsley on the other hand always seems lazy, out of shape and a problem. Why add that to our team and give up two players who have contributed, when clearly Indiana wants nothing to do with him.
     
  16. BimaThug

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    Well, let's take a closer look at those stats and how they mesh with what the Rockets are trying to accomplish with their team.

    From their PGs, the Rockets are looking for three-point shooting and low turnovers. Rafer is clearly better than Tinsley in both areas. That is not to mention that Rafer has been getting better each year and Tinsley has been getting worse.

    Also, who should the Rockets trade in order to get Tinsley? It would take a package of Luther Head, Chuck Hayes and Steve Francis just for starters. I'd rather have Hayes, thanks. Plus, the Rockets would be in luxury tax hell for the next several years.

    As the great Whitney Houston once said, "HELL to the NO!!!"
     
  17. durvasa

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    I hope you're a more frequent poster this season. You make great points. :)
     
  18. Ikorose

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    I'm scratching my head here. I thought we were better and smarter than this as Rockets fans. First Marbury, now Tinsley. Maybe you guys will want Zach Randolph next.
     
  19. smoothie

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    well tinsley is not even close to the other two guys talent wise. still, artest is enough of a chemistry risk we don't need any other wild cards.
     
  20. Rowdy Drummer

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    lol, i feel that!!! hahahhaa

    hell we already can't keep rafer and chuck hayes out of the jail! speaking of chuck hayes, he was in jail the same time i was in jail for a DUI! i was like CHUCK!!! he looked at me and smiled cause someone recognized him. but he was out in 30 mins while it took me 3 hours to get bailed out!!!
     

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