i had a feeling a rock somewhere would be missing it's bottom bunk mate this morning. hey - remember when you questioned my reading comprehension?... ...otherwise, nice try - it's been fun.
i really and truly believe this is all on josh mcdaniels. i don't disagree that cutler isn't doing his image any favors. but i also read this weekend that he owns two homes in denver and his parents live there as well. so i don't blame him for being upset. here's peter king's recap of how this all fell apart: does mcdaniels sound delusional? the key quote, to me, is right here: "I think we were too late to the dance," he said, meaning the Chiefs had already made the deal with New England he keeps going on and on and on about how they had no "grand plan to trade jay cutler"... and then says point blankly it was only because "we were late to the dance" - not, "we had no plans to attend the dance" - meaning: if we hadn't been busy signing free agents, they would have dealt for cassel!! am i missing something???? and he's at a loss why cutler is upset? he keeps trying to deny what he keeps admitting he did! i wonder if the broncos are maybe starting to regret the mcdaniels hire?... he has not handled this well at all; can anyone imagine bill belichick letting this get so out of hand?
Among my very closest friend is a Broncos fan who completely agrees with you. He can't believe McDaniels has alienated Cutler. He's been following this a lot more closely than I have, so I defer to that, frankly.
I think he stopped denying it if you read the recap in the espn article. McDaniels admitted to the media and to Cutler that he pursued a trade for Cassel. He's just saying "our plan wasn't 'trade jay cutler and make something else work'. It was 'trade for matt cassel b/c he's a guy i've brought up from the beginning and i think he'll be great...otherwise, we're moving forward with Jay' " And at this point there are 2 sides to the story interms of what happened during hte Saturday meeting and how it all went down. Cutler wants out and thinks it went differently than McDaniels says. So who really knows if Cutler just doesn't like this new offense and is upset that they went after Cassel (as opposed to him STILL being disrespected by McDaniels and STILL not having any job security)
I guess I just have a hard time buying that Cutler would want out of Denver so much were it not for this.
Cutler is diabetic and still managed to play more games than Schuab, lol. The Broncos run game has sucked for the past few seasons. I don't see Matt doing much better in a system where they knew he was throwing on every down....
yeah I do too. His side is easier to buy than is McDaniels's.. was just saying that the story has changed--McDaniels isn't saying "we weren't in on the Cassel thing" anymore.
you're right - my post was terribly written/reasoned. i said delusional - oblivious would have been a much better choice of words: mcdaniels doesn't seem to recognize (or accept) that this entire mess - a mess that is likely going to cost him a top 10, 25-year old QB, leaving him with chris simms - is his and his alone. he more or less "cheated" on jay cutler and got caught - a dozen roses or a box of chocolates isn't going to undo what's he's done.
I'm just extremely glad that for once an AFC west is having a major internal crisis and it isn't mine. Go Cable Guy!
I agree. I also can't believe he was really pursuing the trade in the first place, but it is what it is. I like Matt Schaub, but I do believe that Cutler has way more upside. I'd be tempted.
Fuggedabout it. How bout a 3 way? Schaub to Denver, Cutler to Tennessee, and Vince Young to Houston? Makes total sense for all parties. And we could probably get Tennessee to throw us a 3rd rounder since VY is sucking it up so bad over there.
nothing against matt schaub - the career numbers are almost identical; the offenses (i have to assume) are similiar; cutler is younger; cutler is more durable; cutler has a better arm; cutler is cheaper... so, yeah - if they offered us cutler for schaub, the texans would be fools not to make the deal UNLESS cutler really is a big baby. but i have to imagine kubiak has shannahan on speed dial so he could get to the bottom of it pretty quickly.
Do you really think that the Texans would atleast entertain this idea, or do you believe it's something they wouldn't think about. (Schaub being Kubiak's guy, offense not broke why fix it, or other reasons..) Because your first paragraph sums up my feelings exactly.....
does Andre like/dislike Schaub? Would he like/dislike Cutler? Those 2 things matter more to me than anything since the 2 are somewhat similar. Though the #'s don't support it, it has seemed like Cutler is more prone to trying to force it into tight spots when it's not there (esp. over the 2nd half of the season when they weren't doing well?) That's a trait I hate in a QB, and I like that Schaub is more willing to throw it away. Almost negates the "better arm" if he doesn't learn how to harness that power. Cheaper is also an important factor. But I won't give any weight to durability or being younger...but we've debated that stuff enough. Anyway, I don't think the Texans even entertain the idea. (barring something like Cutler + a pick for Schaub, which isn't gonna happen cause there will be more interest from some other team...therefore, I dont' think they entertain it)
if offered? they'd foolish not to. no idea - but denver did have an all-time bad defense and an effective run game (on paper) that scared absolutely nobody. considering only brees threw more passes last year than cutler (616 attempts - 62 more than schaub + rosenfels), i'm going to guess circumstances played a big factor in any "forcing" issues on cutler's part.
seems like cassell for cutler should happen if they are really moving him. i'm not a big cutler fan, but i would still do cutler for schaub in a heartbeat. it also doesnt seem all that unrealistic to me (if they are planning on getting a starting qb in return for cutler), and schaub seems like he would be a mcdaniels kind of guy. same'ish mold of a qb as cassell.
it's cassel and he was already traded to KC, so no, it's not going to happen for cutler.. and really not sure how schaub is in the same mold as cassel? i mean, what characteristics are you comparing?
