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Should we go Dolan and completely clean house for 2012?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RudyTBag, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    I'd do that trade just to get Favors. I'm not sure if NJ likes KM and Scola enough to get Favors.
     
  2. RudyTBag

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    It's interesting, because there have been seperate reports that the Nets want Scola, and that the Nets want Kevin Martin. They have dangled Derrick Favors all season, and i just can't see Favors being very happy about that. I think he would bolt in FA If given the chance, I feel like they almost have to trade him now. That, and If New Jersey moves to Brooklyn, that owner is going to want a winning team immediately. We might have to throw in Battier as well, but we have the pieces to make them very, very good. They have the pieces (Picks, Favors, Murphy) to assist our rebuilding process better than anyone. I think it makes a ton of sense.
     
  3. Dreamin

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    I love the idea of Howard and Paul. I am willing suck untill 2102 if thats the plan. We can acquire high picks along the way.

    As long ias there is a good back plan in place for the scenario where we miss out on them. Then its definitely worth trying.
     
  4. W22_STREAK

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    Why get Favors if we are getting Dwight Howard? They have exactly the same measurements. Unless your suggesting a Double Dwight frontline...then...mmmmmmm
     
  5. W22_STREAK

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    Yep. Worth trying indeed.

    Even if we miss out on the free agents, we'd probably would have landed a top 3 pick if we cleaned house for it anyways. Even though New Jersey's plan bombed right in Prokhorov's face, at least they got Derrick Favors.

    Its a win-win.

    We couldn't be in a worse situation right now.
     
  6. RudyTBag

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    Yup, Favors/Dwight frontline is my ultimate ambition... :grin:

    We could start all our crappy defenders too... Brooks/Martin/Budinger... ;)
     
  7. Dreamin

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    I like this idea. As long as we dont have to take on Harris or Outlaw, its sounds good. A 19 year old top 3 pick plus a few of their 1st round pciks would be awesome.

    Once Martin and Scola are gone, we need to work on Lowry and Miller.
     
  8. BMoney

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    On the plus side, there might not be much of 2011-12 season anyway. Er, that doesn't sound right.
     
  9. W22_STREAK

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    Oh, that makes sense then. If Lee is Dwight's best friend (sounds a bit awkward if you ask me), then that's great. Lets keep Lee. Only problem is, unless we extend him in the coming summer, his caphold will be relatively huge in context.

    would you prefer wallace or iguodala?
     
  10. W22_STREAK

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    haha..that would be even more extreme than a lid on the basket :grin:
     
  11. Aleron

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    If Courtney knew Dwight was coming, he'd take a bit less, think of it like Kenny Smith syndrome, just being on Hakeem's team is why he's where is.

    As for Wallace or Iguodala, Wallace 6 times a week and twice on sundays? The only thing I see that Iguodala is better than Wallace at is ball handling and playmaking, but then any team relying on Iguodala to do that probably will never see .500.

    On the flip side, they're comparable scorers/%, Wallace is a better rebounder, better defender, better slasher. (Wallace can play a similar offensive role to Battier really, the difference is if Wallace gets those corner balls, he's taking 1 dribble, 2 more steps and dunking it)
     
  12. W22_STREAK

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    I'd lean slightly over to Iguodala.I love Wallace, but he is injury-prone and he is a inferior shooter, which I think Adelman really demands from his 3. Crash will be 30 in 2012 and Iguodala 28. Their games relies heavily on their athleticism and that means Crash will only have about 2 years of starter level basketball while Iguodala will have about 4. Passing skills wise, Iguodala takes the cake hands down, and passing skills regress nowhere near as fast as other things like slashing ability which they predicate their game on.
     
  13. Aleron

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    I don't really get the love for AI, he's a worse chucker than anyone on the current rockets roster, Wallace knows he's not the greatest 3 point shooter, but then only shoots 1.5 a game (yet he shot 37% last year, he's still pretty low volume), and you have Iguodala shooting 300 of them at 30% for 3 seasons, that to me is a giant red flag about a person's basketball iq, when they shoot a high volume at a low %, they simply don't know their own limitations.

    The other thing is Wallace is the type of guy that stars would want to play with, he's not the greatest scorer in the world, but he knows it and has no issue with the offense not flowing through him, but anyone whose made it 1st team defensive and comes 3rd in dpoy voting has a skillset that star players would see as a useful addition.
     
  14. roslolian

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    Getting Favors from the Nets doesn't automatically mean you're keeping him. For example you can trade him to Orlando to get DH via sign and trade. Or trade him to Utah to get DW.
     
  15. RoxTurk

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    No, we should clear our roster, lock toyota center and wait till 2538. Then we could sign the very best all time greatest young potential '' Mamadou Djemba-Djemba'' whom will bring us 20 straight championship without scoring in first 3 periods.

    -great all around young prospect

    -born clutch


    yes we should wait till 2538!
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    Franchise tag will kill all of this.

    DD
     
  17. da_juice

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    Yeah, I would imagine the new CBA is going to prevent teams from going the cheap way.
     
  18. Kojirou

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    Do you really think it's the Miami basketball history that caused them to go to Miami? Lebron "took his talents to South Beach" for a reason. Miami and New York are sexy cities, and Houston simply isn't, no matter how much we work at it. It's for that reason that this thing simply is not going to work for us.
     
  19. raleigh

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    Don't ignore this post, guys. It's on target.

    You play out this season, as is. Once the new CBA is set, then you trade the longer contracts as necessary.

    * Scola has only 3 years, $28M guaranteed after this season. That's an easily movable contract next summer. He's a perfect fit on a playoff team with an established center.

    * Lowry has only two years, $12.5M guaranteed after this season. Again, a movable contract. He's earned his reputation around the league as a solid perimeter defender.

    * Martin has two years, $24M guaranteed after this season. Another movable contract, especially for one of the most efficient scores in the game.

    I doubt Morey will dump quality talent on decent contracts until he knows for sure that a shot at a franchise player is legitimately available.
     
  20. rockets934life

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    Clean house and start over...sounds like rebuilding. I'd be for it, Scola, Martin and Brooks would make some team very happy and collect a nice set of picks and capspace.

    Favors to Houston for Scola and Martin would be ideal for rebuilding but we'd definitely need to take on Petro's contract, which i'd be fine with.
     

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