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Should we address the PG position in the offseason?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Artesticles, May 17, 2009.

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Do we need to upgrade our PGs?

  1. Absolutely not, we are perfectly fine with ABLowry

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  2. Yes, we need to pursue a veteran starting PG

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  1. RV6

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    and like i said earlier, how can you not give him one offseason, at least, to work on his game/weaknesses?? An offseason plan is different when you're a back up compared to a starter, you have different approaches and responsibilities in the offense. He's also shown he's improved every year, it would be crazy not to keep him at least one more year, he's not likely to do any worse next year, and he's young enough where even if he doesn't improve within that year other teams would still be willing to give him more time to develop into something better.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    LOL - ok...but he IS the starter of a team that took the number 1 seeded Lakers to game 7.

    You people are so funny...you would be willing to give up on a guy who has started 40 total games at PG.

    He has sick handles, is quicker than anyone in the league WITH the ball, and has a pretty good shot..

    All he lacks is experience.

    Yet some, would be willing to jettison him because he is not a great passer, or QB of the team...yet.

    Of course, if you put a 2nd penetrating player with him.....at the SG position and allow him to play off the ball some.....you would see how much better this team would become.

    Replace Ron or Shane with someone who scores and creates like Ginobli and Brooks becomes even more dangerous.

    We have our Duncan and Parker, now we need to find our Manu...

    DD
     
  3. SamFisher

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    This is not even close to being true. Perhaps you didn't read what I said.

    I'm not going to bother to address the "TONY PARKER!!!11!!11!!" and "STEVE NASH!!111!!!!" calls, except to say that lots of young PG's come into the league and have erratic first and second seasons, and the overwhelming majority of them do not become Steve Nash or Tony Parker. Fact.

    Here's a list of guys who had similar stats to Brooks through 2 seasons:

    Similar Players (Career)
    Trevor Ruffin (988)
    Adam Morrison (988)
    Salim Stoudamire (987)
    Mike Iuzzolino (984)
    Dajuan Wagner (982)
    Larry Finch (980)
    Sarunas Jasikevicius (980)
    Daequan Cook (978)
    Nick Young (977)
    Tony Dumas (977)
     
  4. tycoonchip

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    I say we let him grow but off the bench. The more I watch Lowry's game the more I see why we have been trying to get this kid. Lowry is still young but can pass and sure as heck knows how to control that tempo. He also hustles, plays d, rebounds and does alot of the intangibles a team needs to win a championship. If lowry learns to catch and shoot beyond the arc then he is who i want starting at pg. He reminds me of a young not overly paid derek fisher. Tough as nails and he's definitely become my favorite acquisition/addition of this past season. Don't care if brooks stays but I definitely want Lowry to stay!
     
  5. RV6

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    Wagner had a career ending injury...

    morrison isn't a pg :confused:

    Sarunas had already peaked

    cook is never going to be more than a dead eye shooter, which was expected
     
  6. DaDakota

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    You won't convince Sam, but we know he is wrong here.

    :D

    Brooks will be just fine, he increased his percentages IN THE PLAYOFFS, we have not had a PG do that in ...well...FOREVER !

    DD
     
  7. levintblack

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    WOW. I am completely dumbfounded by the people wanting to bench Brooks. Did you not watch the games? You do realize he averaged 10 pts off the bench as a rookie right? What more do you want? He proved to be a great bench player last year and the first half of this year. He has now proved in the playoffs he deserves a shot to start and take the reins of this team.

    I like Lowry fine but only coming of the bench. Anyone supporting him saying he shows more promise than Brooks just simply shouldn't be allowed to be a basketball fan and definitely not one of this team. You do realize he shot 33% in the playoffs. Let me spell it out for you. Thirty-three percent.
     
  8. Aznoob

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    I think Brooks and Lowry are fine.

    The two playoff series really helped them in experience, and in their growing into better players at the 1.

    There is NOTHING like real-game situations to help you excel in topics like clutch factor, time management, etc.

    BUT, if an offer for a player like Steve Nash or Ramon Sessions arises, I wouldn't mind trading one of our two PGs.
     
  9. levintblack

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    Sorry meant 10 points off the bench as a rookie when he got regular playing time.
     
  10. Hayesfan

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    LOL better than Luther!
     
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    Aaron Brooks: Trade Asset?

    The Rockets' playoff run couldn't have realistically ended any better. Yes, a 19 point loss was sour, yet, in perspective, we made it past the first round for the first time in 12 years, even forcing a very unlikely 7-game series against the premier team in the Western Conference.

    You all know this already.

    What has come to my attention is something else entirely. This year's NBA Playoffs has not only shown the resilience and heart of this Rockets franchise, but has introduced an unlikely hero to the media: Aaron Brooks.

    Already being compared to Tony Parker (and others), the media has gone so far as stating that containing Brooks, one of the smallest and lightest players in the league, would be the key to the Lakers game 7 victory.

    Can he really be that good? Is the media often right about anything now-a-days? True, Aaron has played phenomenal in the playoffs in the games that we have won. In the games we have lost however, his performance was remarkably worse, i.e., turnovers, poor court-vision, and the tendency of being selfish which is undeniably a result of being a score-first, pass-second guard. Perhaps these are all traits of a young, inexperienced guard. Perhaps these are all areas he can improve on in the seasons to come. Then again... maybe not.

    I'm sure Daryl Morey knows this better than any of us here. All I know is, the media's love for Aaron may be a blessing in disguise. So I ask, is it possible that Brooks could live up to his hype? Absolutely. Would we be shooting ourselves in the foot if we did trade him in vein? You bet. Big time. We definitely would not want to fall victim to a Jason Kidd - Devin Harris scenario.

    Then again, would it be wise to package Brooks with some other fellow Rocket(s) in a trade for (a) veteran player(s) if it meant winning the championship in 2010? Absolutely. Would it be smart to package Brooks in a trade knowing he could potentially bring the same type of success to another team as Steve Francis had with Orlando/New York? Absolutely. Is there any way of predicting the future? No.

    So I ask you this: would you possibly consider trading Brooks? If so, who would you package him with, and to which team(s) would you send/distribute such trade?
    Or is trading Brooks just plain stupid, having to be completely out of your mind to even consider it?
     
  12. levintblack

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    Actually Luther didn't take a shot in this playoffs. Ohhh wait you meant the other years when he shot 24 percent. Twenty-four percent.
     
  13. saleem

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    This is already being discussed at length in other threads.
     
  14. huflungpu

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    On a team with a ball handling big SG, Brooks would be perfect. Letting him save his energy for one half of the court at the time to kill the other team with speed without the annoying whoopsies.

    Unfortunately ballhandling big SGs are hard to come by and we actually have one - of course you all know who I'm talking about.
     
  15. RV6

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    countdown to thread lock 5,4,3...
     
  16. WeMissDekeMan

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    I wouldn't mind especially if we get a great deal. We need some more veteran players, strictly a scorer though.

    A deal I would like to go against is the Washington Wizards. Daryl Morey in the trade deadline attempted to get Caron Butler and I would love to have Caron on this team.

    Rockets Get:
    Caron Butler
    Brendan Haywood
    Mike James?

    Wizards Get:
    Tracy McGrady
    Aaron Brooks

    I think both teams win, T-Mac is a juicy expiring contract in 2010. Wizards end up getting a young PG with the name of Aaron Brooks, although they already have Gilbert Arenas, they could just shift him to the Shooting guard position.

    Caron Butler would help this Houston Rocket team a lot, with his versatility and especially with his ability to score. He has flourished in recent years in the Princeton offense with the Washington Wizards under Eddie Jordan. With Rick Adelman's system an actual contender, he would flourish even better especially playing aside Yao Ming and Ron Artest.

    Just a thought. I wouldn't mind trading AB at all, but I wouldn't trade him for another young PG or a PG like Jason Kidd though.
     
  17. BackNthDay

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    No way, I take AB all day with some scoring from our SG and SF. We have to have the lowest output of any western conference playoff team from our SG and SF positions. Artest, Von, and Battier, killed us this series. Shane I understand due to his defense on Kobe, however, Artest let us down big time with Crazy shots.

    We cannot and should not rely on Yao and Tmac next year. Their bodies will not hold up and Tmac will be coming off of microfracture surgery.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Tmac may never come back...you can not count on him...so we need to find another one...but actually one that is more efficient and can shoot the ball better.....

    DD
     
  19. rhino17

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    Making Lowry a starter will give the already offensive lacking starting lineup more problems. His "intangibles" along with Shane's are too much for 1 group to overcome. The Rockets need more scoring in their starting lineup, that is why they traded Rafer and let Brooks play. I like Lowry, but he cannot shoot the 3 at all and that is what he needs to be a starter.
     
  20. saleem

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    I do want to retain both Ron and Brooks,the former at a reasonable cost and for a short duration,however I'm not against the idea of packaging them for a superior player. One does have to look at it from the other team's point of view,would it be worth it for them? Possibly not.
     

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