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Should we address the PG position in the offseason?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Artesticles, May 17, 2009.

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Do we need to upgrade our PGs?

  1. Absolutely not, we are perfectly fine with ABLowry

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  2. Yes, we need to pursue a veteran starting PG

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  1. leebigez

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    U take out brooks and put in rafer and the rox lose to portland. Mark that down.
     
  2. nolimitnp

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    Barbosa is essentially the same player. Neither will ever a great passer. No thank you, I'd rather stick with Brooks. Good thing you aren't GM.
     
  3. Dark_Tower

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    I see Yao doing most if not all of this anyway - he has an uncommitted offseason to study and work, and we all know that Yao is very diligent and committed to his off-season preparation. It's an open discussion if AB and Yao are a good fit. I don't see too many problems personally; experience and practice will help out Brooks and Yao is a hard worker.
     
  4. choujie

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    Rafer is still in playoffs.

    Brooks didn't do too well against Blazers as I recall. Without both Tmac and Yao, Brooks is more important to the team than Rafer, that's why Brooks's stock is high at this moment.

    But with Yao in the lineup, it's still hard to say.
     
  5. dexkk

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    Brooks did fine with Yao. With or without Yao, he's inconsistent but when he's hot, he does well. Against the Blazers, he had some amazing games and sometimes looked like the best Rocket player in the series.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Brooks didnt do well against portland? Ok, if you say so. I've said this, they need guys that can play with and without yao. We know there will be games when teams can take yao out the game, thats a given, thats why you need guys that can play when he's not effective scoring the ball. Brooks fit that bill. Now they need to add a few more players that can do the same. Once the rockets start lighting the other team up, they will adjust like portland did and it will open other things up for yao.
     
  7. RV6

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    Rafer also still has his center in the playoffs, and his 2nd best teammate. Oh yeah, and they are playing a team who lost their 2nd or 3rd bes player....


    Here's the thing. Did brooks have up and down performances? sure did. did rafer also have them , both here and now with orlando? Sure did. The difference? when brooks plays well, we win, when he doesnt we lose. With Rafer its not that back and white, he plays well and we would still lose sometimes, he played badly and we still won sometimes. The other difference was Rafer wasn't going to improve or get better FOR SURE at this point in his career, Brooks probably will, which means he'll have good games more consistently, which should translate into the team having more good games as well.
     
  8. 1individual

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    I think Henrich would be better than bibby in many ways. Chicago also has nicer add ons to the package. Yes, we definately need to get a consistent experienced PG. I think Aaron Brooks should stay as PG off the bench.
     
  9. choujie

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    Brooks never looked the best player on court against Blazers. It was Yao and Scola.

    He did against LA, after Yao went down.
     
  10. leebigez

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    I guess you dont remember brooks lighting up portland early and then they had to adjust. Wasnt brooks the 2nd leading scorer in that series? Yao got alot of attention, but he only had 2 effective offensive games against portland, the 1st and the last. In 6 gams, brooks had 1,2,6. Say what you want, but brooks can play well in a team that has yao. Another yr and it should be better.
     
  11. choujie

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    Yes, Rockets need players can play with and without Yao, AB is the type that plays better without Yao, as a PG.

    He is valuable to Rockets, no question. His trading value is very high because of the series against LA after Yao went down. If we can get a clear upgrade at PG, I don't know why not consider that an option.
     
  12. dexkk

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    I agree
    Trailblazers lost the PG battle most of the series. Their fans were hatin on Blake because Brooks torched him couple games.
     
  13. JujuxG

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    our pg combination is great and can only get better with more work in the summer, Lowry can improve his mid range jumper and ab can work on his pass :eek: .
     
  14. choujie

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    How fast do you forget things? 2nd leading scorer was YAO, 2 points behind Scola. How can you don't even remember that?

    The first game Yao 9/9 in first half and Rockets blew them away in first half. AB did well in that game too, and Blazers adjusted from game 2. But any PG would get Rockets the win in that game.

    In 2nd game, Brooks had a bad night until last several minutes when the game was out of reach, he nailed 3s after 3s when Blazers got loose on him.

    Then he played below average in most of game 3 and game 4, dribbled to death, missed critical FTs after critical FTs.

    Then in game 5 he played like crap and Yao had to call him out after that game. It was the moment when Brooks start passing more instead of dribble out clock.

    Games 6 was Artest and Yao, although AB did his job by moving the ball around a lot quicker.

    How can you count game 6 as great game for Brooks and claim Yao only had 2 good games?

    Your inaccurate selective memory never stops amazing me.
     
  15. Darmonx

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    a PG? i have no choice but to call this thread dumb. did we have a center in the last 4 games of this series? did we have a reliable scorer after Yao went down? that PG you want to trade is the reason this series went to 7. you are very ungrateful.

    the center position is a higher priority than your so called PG problem. i would trade AB for a quality center but not for another PG.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I love Aaron Brooks and think he will get better with playing time etc, however it would be foolish not to consider upgrading the PG spot.

    Any player or position is trade bait for the right deal.

    I am happy to keep Aaron, I think he will develop into Tony Parker light.

    But if you can bundle him and Artest for CP3, you do it.

    So, I am fine keeping going forward and praying for health of Yao and Tmac, or looking to upgrade.

    Whatever makes the team better.


    DD
     
  17. leebigez

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    Scola's value is high too, lets trade him also. Battier, since his homeboy is sending him text messages from obama, trade him too. Point being, Brooks has the biggest upside of any rocket because he has special qualities. If you can get a upgrade with a all star type, go ahead, i think anyone is tradeable, but don't give me hinrich type of guys and call it a upgrade.
     
  18. choujie

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    Rafer plays well with centers. That's the point here. Without Tmac and Yao, Brooks is far more valuable than Rafer. But with Yao in the lineup, hard to say that.

    Before Rafer was traded, it was quite obvious that whenever Rafer has a good shooting night, Rockets almost always wins. But too bad that didn't happen too often. Rockets still won a lot games with Rafer shooting bad though.

    So it's very hard to say we'd get beaten by Blazers with Rafer playing PG.
     
  19. dexkk

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    It's too early to assume Brooks can't play with Yao. Brooks has had good games with Yao before and his consistency problem isn't really a problem. Remember, this was his 2nd year in the NBA.

    Brooks stepped up after Yao wen't down but that may have less to do with Yao and more to do with Brooks.
     
  20. dexkk

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    I have to agree here about Rafer. The problem was that he had too many bad nights and his tear drops gave fans nightmares.
     

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