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Should we address the PG position in the offseason?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Artesticles, May 17, 2009.

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Do we need to upgrade our PGs?

  1. Absolutely not, we are perfectly fine with ABLowry

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  2. Yes, we need to pursue a veteran starting PG

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  1. Seth

    Seth Member

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    We should adress the SG position!!

    SG

    Artest? Battier? Wafer?

    And please don´t start with the multiple "IF" guy.
     
  2. RV6

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    this pg crap needs to die, seriously. For one, AB needs to put on some weight, most guys who are thin dont do that early in their career because first they have to get used to the NBA game...Brooks is almost there..i expect him to put on some pounds in the next year or two, which will help him greatly. Also, this is his first full time season, it's difficult to make major changes to your game during the season, especially half a season in his case. Let the guy have one offseason to work on his weaknesses, his decision making, etc. I'm sure he's going to come back even stronger, there's no way this is the high point of his career.

    Keep in mind that when you lose your two best players it puts the other guys in a position to try and do too much, this goes for all of them, not just Brooks. It makes them look worse than they are. I'm sure after an off season of work, and with some vets, stars, back next year Brooks will be much better and improved.

    why make such a big change when you lost your two best players? THAT was the problem.
     
  3. m_cable

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    Barbosa for Brooks is a lateral move at best. And it seems like Bibby will stick with Atlanta.

    My idea is if Wafer walks and signs elsewhere, we should make a hard run at Jason Kidd for the MLE. Kidd would be amazing on this team playing the SG/combo guard position with Brooks in the backcourt (like how he played with barerra with the mavs). He could create for Artest and would be able to deliver Yao the ball. Imagine how good we could have been with Kidd handling the ball instead of Artest and company making bad passes and turnovers.
     
  4. Rocketeer

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    Ridiculous thread. UNLESS we are getting a guy like Bibby (which we are not) why would you trade these guys. They're both like 23 years old and are only getting better.
     
  5. mikeyharris

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    I don't think we need a starter or backup. We need a veteran PG who has about 1 year left who is willing to be third string and teach Brooks and Lowry. Then if one of them goes down, he can back up.
    My preference: Anthony Carter
     
  6. ferrarif1286

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    we need a more ball controlling pg in like they said that keeps the ball from artest in certain situations and have brooks and lowry run up from the bench
     
  7. Marsarinian

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    Tell that to Tony Parker's face. I'm not saying that he's anywhere close to that level yet, but if he's shown anything after the Alston trade, it's his potential to grow... FAST. If he can develop his pull up game more in the off season, he's going to be a star. Commanding double teams is better than being "a pure point guard", especially when you have very good passing wings in McGrady, Battier and Artest. We should care more about how many assists the TEAM gets, not just at the 1.
     
  8. saleem

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    Barbosa is not bad,but we need more size/passing and defense from the 2 guard spot.Bibby will ask for a lot.
     
  9. TMac4Life#1

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    I think you are nuts because #1 Bibby is a free agent so therefore you can't trade for him. #2 Bibby is going to want $$$$$ we are over the cap and wouldn't be able to afford him unless we do some heavy moving or if he is willing to take the MLE. Either way our pg situation is fine. Backup Center should be the Rockets main focus. Maybe resign Artest also.
     
  10. choujie

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    Barbosa isn't much an upgrade over Brooks.
     
  11. jump shooter

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    PG position has already been addressed. How about addressing the rockets lack of size and shotblocking down low.
     
  12. choujie

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    Because AB's game doesn't seem to fit Yao's too well, and AB's trade value might be all time high now. You get more than you normally get by trading him.

    He'd be great coming off the bench for Rockets though.
     
  13. ferrarif1286

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    andre miller bibby hinrich only if we can do something about the 23mill...
     
  14. allenz

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    sorry are we talking about PG?
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    So what does Parker and Brooks have in common other than speed? Parker's dribble penetration and ability to finish inside the paint is light years beyond Brooks'. The way that Parker can finish around the basket is something that really can't be taught. The dude is just that good.

    As for which is better for this team, a "pure point guard" or a scoring point guard, your post has the answer right there. We have enough offensive minded players on this team that a "point guard that can command double teams" isn't even needed. And as far as commanding double teams, there's no way that Brooks will ever be double teamed by any NBA team unless the Rockets are playing with a depleted squad as seen recently.
     
  16. larsv8

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    We have a budding star in Brooks and people still want more?
     
  17. SWTsig

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    yeah, trading away a very promising 24 yr old PG w/ only 1/2 a season of starting duties under his and who just stole the spotlight in one of the most heated playoff series in recent memory is ALWAYS A GREAT IDEA!
     
  18. durvasa

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    The Rockets would be foolish not to explore Aaron's increased trade value to its full extent.
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    One of those rare times I agree with you, durvasa. I'm not advocating a "Lets trade Brooks" campaign because he can be the instant offense we need off of the bench but his value will not be any higher than it is right now.
     
  20. HI Mana

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    The Rockets definitely need a 3rd point guard for injury insurance; and ideally, the guard will be tall, a good shooter and a damn good entry passer; basically, young Brent Barry.

    I love the idea of Jason Kidd, but there's a snowball's chance in hell he's coming here for the MLE; my guess is he goes to the Lakers for the Veteran's Exception.

    One thing that the OP doesn't really address is that our combo of the Afterburner and the Human Bowling Ball costs a grand total of $3M this year and $5M after that; like Scolandry, you're not going to find a better deal than that on the open market.

    Like it or not, the Luxury tax is basically a hard cap for the Rockets, and in a turrible economy, Les Alexander is going to break the bank only in extreme circumstances. VC? Caron Butler? Amare Stoudemire? Mike Bibby? Leandro Barbosa? 2 of these names are not like the others...
     

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