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Should the Rockets make a play for Nash?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Jul 4, 2010.

  1. larsv8

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    Its not always about talent, its about talent that FITS. Is Nash better than Brooks....yes. Is what he would bring to this team worth the millions of extra dollars and shorter championship window....no.

    Our entire system is Yao based. They clearly want the game slow, grind it out, FT based, etc. Adelman's entire system is based around not having a ball dominant PG.

    There is no point in paying Yao max dollars and Nash max dollars because the styles of play which most effectively utilizes thier skill sets dont mix.

    You would be paying money for talents that arent being used which isn't effecient and isn't Morey like. This is why we are so aggresively pursuing Bosh. He isn't the best player available but he fits perfectly into what we are trying to do here. He can defend the PnR which none of our bigs can do now. He draws a ton of fouls, while hitting his free throws.

    If Morey was going to upgrade the point it would be for a guy who can play off Yao, ie draw fouls and hit the open three and plays top notch defense. A playmaker is not a high priority in this system, which is what Nash is known (and paid) for.
     
  2. delishman

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    I would cream my creamies to get Steve Nash. Guy can fit wherever he goes. With Yao expected to have a limited role early on we wont miss a beat with Nash pushing the fast break.

    Hes a Phoenix icon though. You don't trade the face of your franchise. Their fan base is probably already pissed. We can dream though.
     
  3. rlivz

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    Steve Nash is 36 years old. No.
     
  4. ClutchCityReturns

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    3 years ago it was "Steve Nash is 33"

    2 years ago it was "Steve Nash is 34"

    1 year ago it was "Steve Nash is 35"

    Now it's "Steve Nash is 36".


    Still hasn't mattered yet.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    how many rings he got ?
    Can his style help us over the hump?

    If Nash comes here,. . .we'd still need more parts
    generally speaking .. the same parts we would need with AB


    Rocket River
     
  6. iconoclastic

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    I think Steve Nash would be an additional impact player on this team if traded for Brooks:

    1. More clutch (especially free throws)
    2. Better ballhandler
    3. Much better decision maker
    4. Better shooter (as good as Brooks is he's not historically good like Nash)

    4. Worse defense

    Something like Brooks, Hill, Anderson, Jeffries, a pick

    for

    Nash

    If we could also get another offensive threat to go along with Nash, like a Bosh, then we'd be all set- we'd have a clutch ballhandler, big guys up front, good scorers in the backcourt, and a good wing defender in Ariza

    Yao / backup
    Bosh / Scola
    Ariza / Battier
    Martin / Bud
    Nash / Lowry
     
  7. Easy

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    Are you implying Nash, even at 36, is not an upgrade over Brooks?

    I think Nash is one of the most underrated players on CF.net. They keep saying, "He doesn't play defense" "His style doesn't win championship" etc. And all he's been doing is going deep into the playoffs. He just doesn't have enough interior size to play with the Lakers.
     
  8. Rocket River

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    I think the opposite.
    I think he is one of the most overrated.

    He is good.
    He is better than AB
    but
    What is his window?

    Was Charles barkley better than Sam Cassell and Robert Horry?
    yea . . but ya mortgage the future for a run of about 2 yrs at best?

    Rocket River
     
  9. daywalker02

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    Have you been watching the team lately? We are running an up tempo style of BBall. Yao won't be the option that he was under JVG because our offense should not be stagnant. We want to hit the opponent when they are not set. If we cannot get easy buckets then we turn to Yao. He's going to be a 2nd, 3rd option. The good thing about the read and react offense is that we are not dependent on Yao being our first option anymore. That's where Nash could come in and be comfortable.
    I think the only knock on Steve Nash is his age and his D. He's been playing great for years.
     
  10. pmac

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    That's not a blunder by the Suns' front office. That's his style.

    A big that scores on post ups in the half court set (see: Yao Ming) will prevent Nash from running and gunning. He would be a huge upgrade over Brooks but it wouldn't improve our team enough to make us championship contenders and I'm not sure if Morey believes in a "win now" mode. He'd rather see us upgrade while maintaining flexiblility for the future.

    Also, I would strongly consider seppuku If I must watch Nash & Yao attempt to defend the pick n' roll.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    I thought Phoenix did pretty well against the Fakers. If not for Ron's clutch basket, we won't know what would have happened in Lakerland.
     
  12. BigTex

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    seems like it would make a lot of sense for everyone

    nash wants to win-no chance without amare... nash unhappy

    brooks + budinger+ jeffries.... two good young players and an expiring
     
  13. daywalker02

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    Imagine Yao being on the Suns team against the Lakers. They would use him as a uber-role player on the defensive end, running PnRs with Amare all day and go to him when everything else does not work. Bail them out in clutch situations, giving Gasol and Bynum fits. WOW
     
  14. thekad

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    Not a big enough upgrade, especially when we don't run the style offense that makes Steve Nash Steve Nash.
     
  15. TheFreak

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    They tried to add size with Shaq and it didn't work. They had to fire the coach and go back to run and gun.
     
  16. albuster

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    Why not CP3 or Collison?
     
  17. kegray34

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    I am a fan of Nash, but he is the worst defensive PG currently starting in the NBA so do you really think RA would push for getting him??

    I do agree Brooks is not the PG to lead you to a title. He is a good player, but AB is a shot first PG with Yao and Martin on the floor just doesn't work.
     
  18. larsv8

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    Yes, lately, when Yao was gone for the whole season we played uptempo.

    That is going to change when he gets back. The entire team has been assembled to feed off the openings that Yao centric offense creates.

    Re-watch the Portland series if you dont believe me.
     
  19. thetatomatis

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    Heck no. That s moving backwards aince we arent in win this year mode it makes absolutely 0 since to give away younger assets unless you already had a healthy big man to go with him or supertar.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Nash is well equipped to play in a Yao-centric offense. Best shooter in NBA history, remember?

    And let's not forget Yao's minutes will be reduced. When he's on the bench, I expect us to revert back to a more uptempo style.
     

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