Should the Rockets be shopping their first round pick?

I thought we had that with Cato last year, a rebounder/shotblocker . Apperantly, the Rockets organization thought differently.

 

Something that I have been pondering combines Clutch's last two threads.

I think there is a possibility we could trade Jimmy Jackson and this years draft pick for Nene. The salaries match so that shouldn't be a problem. Jim is a veteran that is very stable can shoot the three and give them leadership @ the two w/melo at the three. Denver would also see that this would leave us thin at the two and probably improve the pick. We could get a power forward that should fit the team.




btw, i love Jim, but he is only getting older and will have to be replaced soon enough. If you could get some a young talent at the four for him, I think it's worth it.

 

I wonder if Denver would consider that. However JJ is more of a 3 at this stage of his career than a 2 (especially defensively). But he probably could help the Nugs. I love JJ and would hate to see him go but if you could turn him and a #1 into Nene you would have to think about it.

If we did that deal then we would probably have to turn around and try to move one of these guys Howard/Spoon/Taylor for a SF. Perhaps see if you could move Taylor to the Nets for Eric Williams/Zo (Zo included to match salary). The Nets need a PF and Taylor could help them scoring wise and they would be able to dump Zo's contract.

 

If we start turning things around by winning our pick presumably will be lower than what it could be if we end up losing more games.
I think if this were to happen why would anyone want to trade for our pick right now for a player like Chandler.

 

If given the opportunity to trade a #1 draft pick for proven talent; i would do it every time. Drafting is a crap shoot as it is; this class is weak and the rockets don't exactly have a great history of drafting the last 7 years minus the Cuttino/Yao picks.

 

My impression of Chandler is that he is like Cato offensively, i.e. - nothing. Also has poor hands. On defense, he can be a very good help defender, but not an impressive man defender as he still lacks bulk.

People talk about how it took time for J O'Neal to blossom. That may also be the case with Chandler, but Chandler's had big minutes for four years now. Something tells me that what you see is likely what you get.

That's sort of off-topic. I don't see Chicago parting with him for less than a lottery pick. While I'd probably do it, I'd have to see what we might be passing up before I do that trade.

 

This year's draft is pretty thin so I say dump it or dump a couple of second rounders for Kenny Thomas.

 

Teams are giving up on young big men far too early.

Chandler is only what 22?

He can still develop into a great player.

If we could get him for our pick and/or Trade exception we should do it.

DD

 

lol! Judging by many posters here, so do fans.

 

Chandler had 18 rebounds tonight EIGHTEEN !!

Let's go get him.

DD

 

I think Chandler could have been had for a pick and the trade exception had we been willing to take back Eddie Robinson. That possibility is of course gone now with Robinson's departure. I think the Bulls would be willing to do a deal involving Antonio Davis' contract + Chandler for Howard, the TE, and the pick. Davis has more toughness than this entire frontline and can help in spurts and of course the real prize is Chandler. That pick is worthless to me with CD's drafting history. I'de do that deal in a second, I think the Bulls would do that deal, but I don't think Houston would. You take on Davis' contract AND have to re-sign Chandler to a big deal pretty soon. Not sure if Les is willing to do that, but we'll see how desperate things get.

As far as the proposal a little above, I think you can forget about Nene. He's proven and Denver isn't just going to hand him away. Jimmy Jackson, while a huge part of our offense, has very little trade value around the league, due to his age. Our best bet is targeting underacheiving guys like Chandler, Wilcox, or Kwame Brown and trying to obtain them by taking back excess salary.

Then again, if they're underacheiving elsewhere, what makes us think they'de blossum here where Yao and T-Mac have practically given up? I'm still a huge JVG supporter, but these guys have given up on him and once that happens, it's over. No trade can fix that. I'de guess that management will make a move first, but ultimately Gundy will have to go for this season to be salvagable. And that's unfortunate.

 

You gotta be joking me. Davis and Chandler for the pick, TE, and Howard?????? The Rockets would do this in a heartbeat if it could be done. Chicago ain't buying that.

 

I kid u not. Chicago would be all over this. I think the Rockets would be the ones balking at this deal, for financial reasons.

It's no secret they want to unload Chandler and get some experience. Chicago has shown interest in Howard in the past, and before this year, he was a pretty good player. Davis is a zero for them with a huge contract. I think it's whether or not the Rockets think Chandler is worth the $8mill/yr for himself he'll surely be asking for + Davis' contract.

 

Geez, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. I just don't see why Chicago would do it. Howard don't help them. Davis would be the immediate big bulky banger we need. And Tyson would be another defensive shot blocker, board banger with some offensive skills we need. If we get those two, our rebounding problems are solved and our defense improves tremendously. In addition, I think it would ignite our break with either one of those guys on the floor rebounding and throwing the outlet pass.

 

Picks schmicks. I just looked at a mock draft and did not see much that impressed me. I'm likely a minority of one but I still don't feel the current team is as bad as its record and we're currently at the #10 draft position....without many other trade commodities.

Another thing to consider about a draft pick is the possibility of a strike-shortened 2005-06 season. It's hard to get NBA experience during a lockout.

 

To answer the original question, yes it is worth it to deal the pick for a Chandler type player, if available.

My ideal situation would be some kind of deal for Chandler and/or dealing Taylor for P.J. Brown.

 

lol, classic!

 

Chris Paul

 

I agree with Clutch, I dont think the Bulls do that deal. I think in this day and age in the NBA it is not the DOLLAR amount that concerns owners, it is the LENGTH of the contracts.

And that was my concern which I mentiond earlier (either in this thread or another). Chandler is very inconsistant with his play. He is up and down. If he is inconsistant for Skiles, it makes me believe he would be for JVG...then again, maybe we will eventually get a new coach.

Classic indeed!

But considering that, makes you shake your head though how we were able to parlay Francis into McGrady!