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Should the Knicks trade Melo

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SPF35, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Don't be shocked when you see some shocking scoring numbers from Lin when Melo returns. With Melo standing out there on the wing, demanded to be coverd, Lin is going to have an even easier time getting to the rim.

    And when the defense has to collapse on Lin, he's going to be throwing the ball to Melo for 22 foot layups.

    Melo's return is going to make the Knicks even more trouble to deal with, big time.
     
  2. trueroxfan

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    That's what ESPN said last night. Is it not true?
     
  3. trueroxfan

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    Ah you know what it probably was. He must have said "Incredible story, didn't get into Stanford or blah blah blah, was cut twice, and now is a starter on the Knicks." Was obviously referring to the Warriors and Rockets, but I didn't think about it.

    Regardless, I have seen a lot of bad and lazy passes from him. Would like to see him get a little stronger. We'll see how he progresses as the year goes on.
     
  4. roslolian

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    Yeah, I mean which is a better point of reference? Melo's 1 year in college and 1 summer for the Redeem team (when he played with guys who are as good OR BETTER than he was)?

    Or his past 6 years in Denver, when you got guys like Nene explicitly saying he like the team more now, or Karl saying his new team shares the ball more?

    Melo's game, the game which made him a superstar, is based on Isos and half court sets, not run-and-gun and pick-and-rolls and shooting open Js. He's been doing the exact same thing for the past 7 years, you think he's gonna defer to some undrafted scrub? If it was MJ or CP3 dominating the ball then he might adjust, but for Jeremy Lin I highly doubt it.
     
  5. munco

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    I think he'll adjust because if he doesn't there'll be 20,000 people at MSG calling for his head
     
  6. TEXNIFICENT

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    Keep Melo & play basketball.....jeez.:rolleyes:
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    You can't trade Amar'e, regardless of what you do with Melo. Stoudemire's contract is enormous and uninsured. He's one dry fart away from disintegration.
     
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  8. JayGoogle

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    His take was the facts.

    Melo has had success everywhere he's been. Syracuse, Team USA, and Denver. It's true he gets a lot of shots, but when you are one of if not the most complete scorer in the NBA that's just how it goes.

    Yeah and both of those guys ESPECIALLY KARL was butthurt that he left. Look at all the comments he said some pretty unprofessional things and taking unnecessary shots at Melo.

    Again, he's a ISO player but that does not make him a SELFISH player.

    If you have a scorer on your team you want him to want the ball at all times, otherwise what you get is Kevin Martin...
     
  9. SPF35

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    That is absurd, he left and they all started winning, getting more touches and sharing the ball and they are sad about him leaving? then he went to NY where they had a worse record. Look I think Melo is one of the best if not the best one on one player in the league, but the fact is that one on one play, in the wrong team, can be detrimental to the team and that has shown in many places.

    I do agree that it will help Lin jsut because of the attention the melo gets, but Melo still wants the offense through him and doesn't add to much else to the game if he doesn't have an offense built for him to get isos
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    People keep saying that but it really is not that simple as. Otherwise you are implying a team is better without Melo. That is even more absurd.

    Basketball is a team sport. The Knicks gave up all of their depth to get Melo. In return what happened was the Nuggets became a super deep team and the Knicks became a team with literally no talent outside of 3 players.

    The deeper team will usually be the better one unless one of those 3 players is a Lebron James or another all time great.
     
  11. Cowboy_Bebop

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    I think they should consider trading Amare Stoudemire for Pau Gasol.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    I don't think it's a matter of ego and selfishness. Don't get me wrong, Melo does have both.

    I think it's more a matter of style. Melo's game isn't Shawn Marion's game. It just isn't. He can't make it be and adjust just because.

    It could work, but it's definitely a wait and see thing. I for one think it's as likely to not work as it is to work.

    I'm not completely sold on Lin as an all-star PG for the future or anything - though he certainly could be - and as such, it would seem a little ridiculous to trade away Melo because he doesn't "fit".

    That said, with each passing game, Lin solidifies his position, and assuming Melo can still net you a pretty decent return, I think it could definitely make the Knicks a better team to trade him.

    Houston trades: Kevin Martin, Hasheem Thabeet, Knicks Draft Pick
    Knicks trade: Carmelo Anthony

    Sure, the Rockets aren't any/much better then Melo was with the Nuggets, but it'd definitely be something to look forward to. Melo's game seems like it would fit into McHale's scheme.

    Knicks would be admitting their "mistake" awfully quick, and not getting back nearly what they gave out, but it is what it is. We could throw in Parsons or Bud if necessary...
     
  13. what

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    I actually think that melo is in the wrong position. He needs to play a combo pf/sf spot ala Dirk, and the knicks, if they were to trade amare for say a guy like Paul George (ideally) or even say DeMar DeRozan. I still don't know why his teams haven't switched him to a pf. Melo is just too much of a beast of a scorer to be boxed in by sf plays alone.
     
  14. roslolian

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    Those are the facts though. Look at Denver pre- and post- Melo. Sure Denver gave up most of their depth but the thing is Melo is a max player. He's supposed to be an upgrade over the wing players NYC traded. Instead, they went 11-15 and if it weren't for Linsanity they would be among the worst teams in the L today.

    If you say that Denver became super deep and NYC was left with 3 good players then you're essentially agreeing with me, NYC became worse because they traded for Melo. Look at his first game back, Melo came back and NYC got pounded into the grounded by the Nets. Melo grabbing only 3 rebs, hitting only 4-11 shots and clogging the paint because he's unable to make 3s is disrupting D'Antoni's offense again.
     
  15. roslolian

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    He's not a good defender and a rebounder. LMAO Melo playing PF would be like Battier playing PF=horrible. Melo would probably get 3 rebs a game, two of which are defensive.
     
  16. Icehouse

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    Worse short term. Aren't we dying to gut our team for a Melo type player because the non-stars are easier to find?

    I wish NY were dumb enough to give us Melo.
     
  17. Tom Bombadillo

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    I will gladly take him off your hands New York. :)
     
  18. asmith8266

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    Honestly, I think they get better with someone like Kevin Martin or Morris or whatever. Lin is the guy now and I think he's earned that. They won't win if he defers to Melo. Melo has to play off of Lin not vice versa and I don't think that's in Melo's DNA.
     
  19. asmith8266

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    This worked in trade machine --

    Knicks get -- Pau, Martin, Blake, T-Will
    Rox get -- Melo, Goudelock
    Lakers get -- Amar'e, Dragic, Shumpert
     
  20. OremLK

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    Lakers would need to be insane to do that. Anyway I would rather have Pau than Melo (yeah I said it). Screw Melo.
     

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