Yes the Astros should try. If they can acquire him without giving up Pence/Bourn, then he easily makes the team the favorite in the Central, and a legit WS contender. The Astros would have a 3 man rotation that rivals any team. It won't happen though. The combination of building a good enough package & Drayton adding to an already huge payroll makes it seem like he may be beyond the Astros' reach.
The guys on 790 are making a great point...if Hallday goes to any of the Central teams were in trouble...I would say if we could somehow get him it was give us the best 1-2-3 in the NL...Actually it would be more like 1a-1b-2
I just think that we'd just be falling into the same trap that we have been for years. There HAS to come a time when we finally start developing our youth, and replenishing our farm system. We can't just keep trading away our best assets over and over again. We have to start thinking about the future, and the sooner we do it, the better off we will be. This season feels like Fool's Gold to me, because nobody in their right mind thinks this team, as constructed, is a contender over the next 2-3 years. Sure, they've caught lightning in a bottle THIS season, but does anyone really think it's going to continue into next? I say we let this season play out, and if we can get into the post-season, that's fabulous.....if not, well, we've already exceeded most people's expectations by playing meaningful games going into August. Right now, Castro and Norris are the only two things our farm system has....if we were to give them up now, we'd literally have NOTHING to develop.
It's tempting to go for it all now, but we've been trying that for a long time now. Having Roy, Halladay, and Wandy anchor the rotation for a few years is enticing. The problem is most of our pieces are peaking now, or are on the downside of their career. Lee, Tejada, Berkman, and Roy aren't getting any younger. If we trade our top prospects for Halladay, what do we do when Lee and Tejada are gone and we have no trade chips, and still a hefty payroll?
on the flip side of this....a rotation of wandy, roy and roy would keep you competitive for as long as you kept it together.
yeah that's what I was about to say. If there actually was a way to get it done...I'd say hell yes. We've seen what pitching can do even without any offense. Roy Roy Wandy at the top of a rotation.. I think that lineup could suffer through Lee getting old and Tejada leaving and Berkman getting older. Esp. as Pence and Bourn improve and we grab a FA at some point. Halladay isn't slowing down anytime soon. And shoot, maybe pitching next to a guy liek that might convince Roy to stick around for longer than he has said
If Halladay would cost you to much another poster meantioned Cliff Lee...??? Id say he wouldn't cost nearly as much and would do essentially the same as Hallday. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/stark-cliff-lee-is-quasiavailable.html ERA Roy 3.66 Wandy 2.72 Lee 3.17 Moehlor 4.92 Hampton 4.63
are the roys already friends?? i know roy o. is close to peavy. i heard that roy h. really doesn't want to go to an NL club this morning on 1560. i hadn't read or heard that before.
Wandy...30 Oswalt...31(will be 32) Berkman...33 Lee...33 Halladay...32 The window for these guys is now. The core of this team is in their prime. The youth movement in Houston has never really been hurt by trades or FA pickups, but rather poor drafting and no longer dominating the Venezuelan market.
I don't really understand that, at least not from a pitcher's perspective- player's not wanting to switch from AL/NL. I suppose the advantage is you know the hitters a little better, but I think the real advantage would be that the new hitters in the new league wouldn't know you as well. Also, switching over to the NL would seem to generate better numbers for you since their isn't as much run scoring power (and no DH).
obviously i meant within reason....i was thinking like 3 years. if you kept that rotation together for 3 years...and got lucky with some of your younger guys coming up to supplement it....i think you'd be competitive over that span, anyway...in spite of an aging berkman, lee, etc. they'd keep you close, at least.
yeah, i don't get that either. the guys on 1560 said it was just a familiarity thing and doesn't want to have to hit.
Even if they didn't resign Halladay, they would still have 2 chances at a world series which is more than RJ or CB brought.
True and also gives the rest of the farm system time to develop along with possibly 2 good drafts...also compensation picks if Halladay leaves... Darn I am getting excited!
We have some quality talent brewing in Single A ball, especially the pitching in Lexington. Thus, I am more than fine with partings with Bogusevic, Norris, Bazardo... I'd rather keep Castro, Lyles, Bourn and Pence, however. If we can make a package with other players excluding them, I'll be 100% for it, but I don't think we can. We may be able to for Cliff Lee, though!
P.S. - Someone mentioned somewhere that perhaps we could nab Zach Duke from the Pirates. I would be very happy with that. He's really putting it all together today, and as well all know, the Pirates love selling.
Both Freddy Garcia and Carlos Guillen were considered blue chip prospects, probably more so than anyone we currently have in the system. I'm not willing to give up three of our best prospects for a Halladay rental. We're currently in the position we're in because we've constantly depleted the farm system in trades.
