I love Scola as much as the next Rocket fan. But if it takes trading Scola to get Bosh, then YES! Bosh is younger, and a all-around better player. 25 10 guy.
I'd rather keep Scola and Morey make a trade for someone who'll take again jersey #14 and also from G.Tech....D. Favors?
Scola's game may not be the prettiest but it gets the job done. We should try to upgrade our starting PG or backup C before PF.
You guys are so stuck on public "preception" of someones character. Amare's attitude in phoenix has been admirable at this point. The guy is arguably the best PF in the game despite being on the trading block every year. You guys read too much into the hype instead of pure basketball sense
What we need at PF is someone like OT(Defensive) not someone like Barkley(offensive star).Scola/Hill=OT at 10mill a year.Do y'all really want to give our assets and pay 16mill a year for a Barkley type player when we will have AB,Martin,Yao for offense.
Wow. Three pages worth of posts and not one person has stated the obvious. Luis Scola is a freakin' FREE AGENT this summer. The Rockets can't simply "trade" him. Luis would have to agree in advance to a long-term deal with Toronto/Phoenix before any such trade could be made. And the likelihood of that happening at any point before Bosh would sign elsewhere is not extraordinarily great. Sure, I could see Scola being signed-and-traded to Toronto, if the timing works perfectly AND Scola is willing to go there. But this is all much, much easier said than done. Even if Bosh/Stoudemire demands a trade to Houston.
Bosh yes,Amare no. Edit: Bima stated the obvious,while all the rest of us fell asleep about Luis being a FA.
I wouldn't trade for Amare. One of the reason he's so dominating because him and Nash have played some well together for a few years now. They can play the pick&roll really well. With that being said, I don't see either AB or KLow can play that well with Amare AT ALL. AB doesn't play the pick&roll well because of his size. KLow could work but no where close to being a Nash since Nash has worked with Amare for quite a few years now. Therefore, i wouldn't trade for Amare at all. Now Bosh on the other hand, i would give up Scola for him. (even though it pains me since Scola's one of my favorite basketball player all time) Bosh is just one of those stud that doesn't come along that often. If the opportunity is on the table, i would pull the trigger in a heartbeat. Although, a line up of Yao/CB4/Ariza/KMartin/KLow would easily become top 3 team in the league, i just don't see CB coming over at all. He said he wants to be in a place where they would build around him. He wants to be THE MAN of the team. Something like Jordan with the Bulls kinda thing. Yeah i just don't see him coming over no matter what magic DM pulls. (but then DM keeps on surprising me with all these trades since he became the GM of the rox. Maybe he has another trick under his sleeve lolz)
Well sure, he's a restricted free agent and we can match whatever he's offered, if we want to. I was assuming that it was a sign and trade, with Luis agreeing to it because it was lucrative and perhaps more than we might be able to offer. Pure speculation.
Understood. It must be PURE speculation, because that speculation doesn't seem to be "watered down" with a great deal of reality. Sure, he's restricted, and the Rockets can match any offer sheet he signs. But if that happens, Scola could not be traded for a YEAR without his consent; and he could not be traded AT ALL to the team whose offer sheet he signed. This means that, if Scola were to sign an offer sheet with, say, San Antonio, and Amare demands a mid-season trade to Houston, the Rockets STILL could not trade Scola without Luis's consent. I know you're referring to a sign-and-trade of Scola. But what are the odds that Luis, whose market value will be far from determined on July 8, simply agrees to a new deal with Toronto/Phoenix BEFORE seeing if he could possibly make a great deal more money elsewhere? And what are the odds that, by the time that Luis's market value is determined, Chris Bosh and Toronto (or Amare Stoudemire and Phoenix) are still waiting around for Houston to get back to them? I don't know if Phoenix (which would clearly be rebuilding if they let Stoudemire go) would want a 30-year-old PF to take his place. Toronto would likewise be rebuilding, but at least the international build of the Raptors may lend itself towards being a realistic destination for Luis. Bottom line: I just don't think the TIMING would be there, even if all parties would have agreed to a deal had all the facts (most notably, Scola's market value) been known in advance.
Thanks for the response, which is great, as always. Frankly, if we managed to get Bosh, I'd much prefer that we were able to keep Scola. From reading what you've posted in the past, I wonder if that's even a realistic possibilty. Besides the monetary aspect of it, Luis has shown he deserves to start, and unless Yao's not playing, Scola would be a pretty expensive backup.
If the Rockets can get Bosh + filler/pick for Scola, Brooks and Jeffries/Battier, I would do it ONLY IF the Rockets re-sign Lowry. With Bosh, it gives the team size in the frontcourt and another superstar talent. Although Brooks is the better scorer, Lowry runs the team better and would get the team good looks. It also doesn't deplete the team too much. Look: Starting lineup: Lowry Martin Ariza Bosh Yao Bench: Budinger Hill this year's draft picks Chuck Andersen Taylor
It would take more than Scola to get one of those guys. So the answer depends on what else the team would have to give up. If it's much more than Scola -- say Brooks -- the answer is an emphatic NO.
If Luis doesnt play ball, you are likely looking at Jeffries + Battier as the salary filler, both expiring, plus some combination of: Chase Budinger Jordan Hill Houston 2010 #1 pick (12-15 range) NY's 2011 #1 pick (could be anywhere) NY's 2012 #1 pick (could be anywhere) Probably 2 of them, hopefully the 2010 and 2012 picks. So with that you are looking at: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Taylor Ariza/Budinger Bosh/Scola/Hill Yao/Hayes/Andersen Pretty stacked imo.
