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Should Morey be demoted or given a different role?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by by78, May 2, 2016.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Other than his decades of experience, Morey is too inexperienced - IMHO

    DD
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think you keep Morey GM but you let the new coach have final say on personnel decisions such as free agent signings and draft picks.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Why?

    It is pretty impressive the number of quality players that Morey has acquired. It just sucks the quality players dropped off a cliff this season.
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Move Morey into the Twitterati role. He would excel, no question.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    He has good people for sure helping find great talent - but that's not Morey finding the talent - that's his people. People who are close to JVG already anyway. Really Morey isn't needed to find these guys. What Morey brings is that he's very smart and knows how to get the most value out of a situation. That's a great skill and where his focus should be.
     
  6. el gnomo

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    Serious question - what has Morey done to inspire such loyalty in some posters here? Sure, he's a brilliant numbers guy, but shouldn't the GM be judged based on team results?Outside of the Clippers choke-job last year, it seems like the Rockets have beens pinning the hamster wheel.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    Huh? Doesn't that apply to most GMs? Especially the good ones? Having good people around them?
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Team results? Where do you think the rockets rank when you add up wins from the regular season and playoffs since Morey has taken over?
     
  9. Stack24

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    If I am not mistaken we were the 3rd best team record in the past decade.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Regular season yes but the rockets still do well when including playoff wins. Heck, still above average when you just include playoff series wins for the past decade as the NBA has the same teams winning the most year after year usually.
     
  11. el gnomo

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    If that's true, then it answers my question. I guess it just felt like they've either underachieved or been the same slightly-above-average team for a while.
     
  12. HayesIsBack

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    Dude, this was pretty much the first year a Rockets team under Morey underachieved its talent. The same team essentially went to the Western Conference Fibals last year, and all thoese years with Scola, Hayes, Battier etc did. Morey fail to get high character great locker room guys?

    I'd still put Morey's draft record against any other GM when analyzed from draft position, if you're getting players like 2Pat, Marcus Morris and Jeremy Lamb that end up getting $6-8M/year contracts at 14, and Parsons, Landry, AB etc in the 2nd round, you've done well.

    Morey failed because he took a flawed team that outachieveded its talent and tried to build on it and give it stability, the way al most any GM would have done if their team went to the West Conference finals the season before, and kudos for firing McHale who completely lost the team. And was there a candidate available in December / January better than Vogel, Joeger? Maybe only JVG, but he's still available and doesnt seem keen on any other team except the Rockets.
     
  13. HayesIsBack

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    Good GMs are harder to find than good coaches, because bad GMs probably get to fire two good coaches before he gets fired, and good GMs almost never get fired by owners. The only good GMs that get fired are those that are GM/HCs ... and they almost always are obsessed with power/control, and usually dont last long either role.
     
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    Morey is the only guy keeping Houston's pulse from going dark. You get rid of him and you may as well just sell this team, imfo.
     
  15. HayesIsBack

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    Eveny team has college and international scouts. What you are saying is no team needs a GM if they have good scouts
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Gersson Rosas is not a scout.
     
  17. danoman

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    You don't demote Morey for him to be happy he would have to get a promotion to Tad Browns level or something.
     
  18. T_Man

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    You have to find guys that can fit the coach system...

    What Morey did was pull in guys by looking at numbers... But here's the thing about looking at guys with numbers.. Just because they average certain numbers with their old team does not mean they will be able to do it with their new team. They will not get the same touches or looks...

    The problem with the Rockets was more about chemistry than talent.. If these guys would have put away their egos and played as a team they would have had a better year and went further in the playoffs....

    I agree with Lou..

    T_Man
     
  19. Corpusfan

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    What makes you think Morey would accept that and not just quit? Surely it wouldn't be long before he could find another GM job.
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Of course not, he and Morey hire the scouts that uncover all Carl Landrys, Chandler Parsons, Luis Scolas, DMo's of the world.
     

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