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Should Landry start???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by levintblack, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. shawn786

    shawn786 Member

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    Landry needs to come off the bench!

    He will bring energy, force, & a semi go 2 scorer for our second team.
     
  2. Deckard

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    If it did nothing for you, then I would say you are hard to please. When Scola finally became the starter at the 4 spot last season, we started winning games. It was no coincidence. Landry, as much a fan as I am of the guy, played limited minutes and then was injured. All he has shown us is terrific play in spurts. When Carl plays an entire season the way he did at times last year, then this topic is worth discussing, in my opinion. Eventual starter? I hope so, because that would be a good problem to have, but way too early to be seriously talking about it.

    (except here, where anything and everything is talked about, frequently over and over and over and over again.)
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    yao needs an enforcer. scola can have more minutes than landry because scola is a more viable backup at center at this point so he would be backing up both.
     
  4. Hayesfan

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    I would actually say he performed very well in the Olympics. I don't know if you watched all their games, I did.

    Scola was keeping them in the games at some points, strictly through his hustle and slick inside moves.

    Even Kobe gave him props, why would you think he under performed?

    In answer to the title of this thread, no. I don't think that Landry would be as effective or efficient if he were starting.

    Though the winning streak had less to do with Scola starting and more to do with the team gelling and getting used to Adelman, I think he has earned his position.

    In the long run it doesn't matter which of them starts, or if either of them start. They are both going to bring something to the table in the minutes they play. The difference in Landry coming off the bench is that he's another scoring punch with the second group. Could Luis score off the bench? Yes, but I think he needed the confidence of starting to get him really going last year.
     
  5. EGYPT

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    I think we should leave Scola ndry in the order it is. if it is working, why fix it? the success of this tandem did great last year because we had a fresh 4/5 at all time and both players understood their roles.
     
  6. rterry

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    One thing not being considered here is Scola's BBIQ. Scola is a much better passer than Landry and seems to find open seams and spots on the court when moving without the ball. Landry seems to create with his athleticism and outside shot.

    I think Landry being able to knock down the outside shot is better suited to playing with Yao when Yao is posting up, but I think that the percentage of low post offense for Yao will be reduced this year as Adelman works more of his offense into the mix. Yao will play more around the key ala Vladi than in years past, 1 to make more room for cutters, 2 to provide opportunities for Scola and Artest below the basket, and 3 to provide less banging to keep Yao fresh.

    I would continue to bring Landry off the bench, but would like to see him playing with Scola more in relief of Yao. That would give you a nice inside out punch and relentless hustle on the offensive boards.

    There are so many possible rotations with this team. Could coach possibly get Scola, Landry, and Dorsey in at the same time? Can you imagine the offensive boards you could get? Of course defensively that wouldn't work against very many lineups, but the rotation possibilities are endless.
     
  7. spysta

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    short answer yes with an "S" long answer no with a "but"
     
  8. levintblack

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    You're not understanding what I am saying. It did nothing for me because it was exactly what he has been doing for years for Argentina and in Europe. If I'm not mistaken he was MVP of the World's when Argentina won it.
     
  9. ElDobleK

    ElDobleK Literally Zan Tabak

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    Ahahahaha, West Lafayette sucks! But I went to IU, so I would say that. It's strange rooting for Landry now, since I spent a few years in Assembly Hall wishing he'd fracture a tibia or something.

    Seriously though, I think Landry's versatility might land him a spot in the starting five, and I agree with you that he fits best with the other four starters.
     
  10. <3myrockets

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    IMHO Landry is an energy player. If we're destroying them, he'll destroy them more when he hops in. If we're not doing so hot, he helps gain a little more momentum. He's a hustle player at the end of the day...that's what every team needs off the bench.
     
  11. KALIKULI

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    Scola suited for the starting line up and Landry coming of the bench!
     
  12. Dave_78

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    You stick with Scola. He came up big in his first playoff series against one of the best PF in the game. Landry (I know he was not 100%) wasn't really that impressive versus the Jazz except for the blocked shot. Carl is a guy who comes in and makes a living by working hard and being bigger and more athletic than second unit of the other team. He is not (yet) the type of player that can lineup across from another team's elite PF and hold his own. Scola has proven he can do that.

    Also, saying Landry coming off the bench is a shot in the arm is an understatement. The guy changes the entire mood of the game within 2 minutes of stepping on the court with either a nasty dunk or a hustle play that makes Ryan Bowen and Shane Battier look lazy.

    I think Scola is the better starter and Landry is the better instant energy guy off the bench. To think many of us were hoping to land Joe Smith or Donyell Marshall just two years ago and it makes you really appreciate having these two guys on the team.
     
  13. DPballer

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    Aren't we like 10000-0 when Scola and Yao are starting? Why change it now?
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    Landry came in. He rebounded well. He didn't shoot well from the floor, but his activity created a lot of fouls. His total scoring % was still higher than Scola despite his injury hurting his ability to finish. He didn't turn over the ball much and he wasn't very foul prone. I will say Scola played better defensively, but not by much.

    I think defensively Landry still has some lapses, but I see Scola and Landry as neck and neck. I give Scola the advantage just because he has done it in more minutes, but I would definitely want to see if Landry can do what he has been doing in more minutes.
     
  15. RocketRaccoon

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    Like a frickin switch. Just turn him on.

    Switch, hmmm, that could've been a good nick for him.
     
  16. Dave_78

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    That's the thing. Even if I believed that Scola and Landry were equally good starters you have to keep Landry as a reserve because I just can't see Scola having the impact off the bench the Landry does.
     
  17. Untraceable

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    Co-sign.....i have been thinking this since last year....I am not saying landry is better than scola, its just the fact that scola can create for himself better in the post
     
  18. DrJB25

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    I would love giving landry more minutes, but we need his explosiveness off the bench. I believe the landry would be effective no matter if he starts of comes off the bench. On the other hand, I do not believe that Scola will be productive coming off the bench.

    I would like last year's starting line up w/ Landry, Artest, and Barry providing instant offense off the bench.
     
  19. Kindger

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    For posters think that Scola will not be as effective when he comes off the bench, he earned his name and played his best bball for Tau by coming off the bench.
     
  20. levintblack

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    Artest off the bench ummm what?
     

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