1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Should Christian Wood be almost untouchable...or what?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jun 5, 2021.

?

Should Christian Wood be almost untouchable... or what?

  1. No, he's too fragile

  2. No, he doesn't fit our timeline

  3. He SHOULD NOT be traded.

  4. Yes, someone would have to bowl us over with an offer

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,470
    Likes Received:
    7,648
    Christian Wood is a nice skilled big man. He isn't really a star. Or at the least not a #1 guy. If there is a trade where he is involved that can get a #1 guy then move him -- otherwise yeah.

    I feel the exact same way about KPJ. I think these guys are #2/#3 guys either or. Hope they prove me wrong.

    Also very concerned about the ego of these two. Maybe KPJ is in redeem mode, but his history suggests otherwise. Wood has had numerous complaints about being a black hole in his previous stops.
     
    BallaDoc, ilias and HorryForThree like this.
  2. HorryForThree

    HorryForThree Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2001
    Messages:
    2,949
    Likes Received:
    3,882
    I love Wood's game. We definitely got a huge value player, and a total steal at his contract price. But he also has a lot of limits to his game. At the current record and where we are in the development process, what you don't want to do is enter the last season of his contract and lose him for nothing. If we're still rebuilding next year, then it's unlikely that you pay him max dollars at the end of year 3 to stay. And so I think this coming season is a crucial one, and you have to keep your eyes open for someone willing to really overpay for Woods - if a deal like that comes around, you take it imo.
     
    Corrosion and BallaDoc like this.
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2001
    Messages:
    20,716
    Likes Received:
    6,945
    he's a nice piece but he's not the #1 guy, not even the #2 guy. we can't win unless we find a #1 and #2. our best chance of landing our next franchise duo is through the draft since apparently no one wants to play here anymore. so, yes give me another swing at developing a top young prospect into our next franchise player instead of fawning over wood's box scores while he leads us into the lotto again.

    best case this summer is we land cade. or one of the other top 4 guys. when will they hit their prime? around 23-24 years old? will how old will wood be then? 30? is he really even on the same timeline as these guys? when our future franchise player is ready to win championships wood will be on the decline. I'd rather 2 guys from this year's draft class who hit their primes together.

    furthermore, what is so bad about a second lotto pick being worse than wood for the next 3-4 years? does it really matter that we are less talented during those years? I want to be bad in 22 and 23 to tank for our own picks. I want to prioritize minutes and shots for our lotto picks in 21, 22, and 23 because those are the guys with the potential to lead us to a championship. I don't want them taking a backseat so wood can get 20-10-2 in meaningless games, and I don't want him winning extra games when we need to tank the next two years anyway.

    think long term, big picture. our best chance to win is by drafting a top 4 pick through 2023, wait 3-4 years for them to hit their primes, if we hit on our next 3 picks were looking at 26-27 as the earliest chance at title contention. wood is 31-32 years old then. he's totally unnecessary as his best years happen to overlap with when we should be tanking. as such he should be available for the right price. and the best time to move him should be this summer or next trade deadline before he enters his final season under contract. he'll be looking for a big raise and it may not be worth it for the rockets to lock in long term on big money. it would be a mismanagement to let him ruin our tank the next 2 years, or to overpay him as our #1 to keep him after 2 years, or to let him walk without getting anything in return in 2 years. the best way forward is a trade.

    you might think its idiotic to trade him, but I think its idiotic to hold onto him for no reason. saying there I said it doesn't convince me keeping him is our best option.
     
    #63 smoothie, Jun 6, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2021
    Deuce, BallaDoc and Plowman like this.
  4. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,111
    Likes Received:
    8,106
    I
     
  5. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,111
    Likes Received:
    8,106
    I agree we should move him for the right price and that price to me is top 4 in this draft. Every year people fall in love with college guys who haven’t proven anything. Remember when we traded picks to move up and get Griffith. Wood has proven over the last two years that he can be a viable star (not superstar in this league). Why trade him now for a middlin pick without seeing what he can do next year. If you get a top 4 then sure trade him. He is a 20-10-2 guy who hurt is ankle and had to sit. I also believe he could have played more than he did, but it made no sense to bring him back when we were tanking.

    Say we get Cade or Green and re-sign Olynyk or get another solid big later in the draft or with the MLE. Won’t be great for the tank, but KPJ, KMJ, Cade, Wood could be a very solid core to build around. People are also saying we need to take these blind shots to find a superstar. Why is that better than taking that same shot with KPJ and Wood?
     
    D-rock likes this.
  6. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    17,590
    Likes Received:
    27,203
    Nobody is untouchable on the worst team in the league.
     
    rhee, DaDakota and smoothie like this.
  7. sydmill

    sydmill Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    2,119
    Personally, the bolded part is where I currently think the Rockets are. Wood, Tate, Wall, Gordon, and Olynyk (who I think will be brought back) are all in their primes. KPJ, Brooks, Martin and the rookies all will play supporting roles on the current team (unless the wheels come off in which case the tank is back on). This way the team stays afloat while the young guys get to learn the ropes from the vets. As time goes on the younger guys become more the focal point of the team as the current vets are phased out, traded or released. Unless the rookies they bring in hit the ground running like a motherf***er then I suspect that the Rockets end up missing the playoffs and score another lottery pick next season to go along with the Miami and Brooklyn first round picks. 6 first rounders in two years added to KPJ/Martin/Brooks sounds good for the rebuild. In the 2023 draft the Rockets have their own first rounder as well as Milwaukee's and a chance that the Washington and/or Detroit picks convey. So we could be looking at as many as 10 first round picks over the next 3 drafts.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  8. D-rock

    D-rock Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    40,743
    Likes Received:
    64,228
    Very unlikely to keep all 10 FRP the next 3 drafts.
     
  9. mfastx

    mfastx Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    10,066
    Likes Received:
    3,623
    Not untouchable but in no rush to get rid of him unless someone makes a great offer. Last year was his first year in an expanded role and he did very well, lets give him another year to see if he can stay healthy and get any better.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  10. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,867
    I'd trade him to Boston for Smart, 2022 1st and 2nd. Let Smart build up his trade value throughout next season and trade him during the deadline for another 1st. We need more picks/chances to hit in the draft.
     
  11. sydmill

    sydmill Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    2,119
    Agreed. If I were Stone I would look to draft 3 firsts this year and obtain 2 seconds (for players we have discussed elsewhere that would spend the season in the G league). The 2022 draft I think the Rockets are probably looking to select somewhere around 8-12 so I package picks to move up. So, going into the 2022/2023 season the Rockets rebuild would be based around Wood, Tate, KPJ, Martin, Brooks, Thomas, Cade (fingers crossed), Garuba (pick 23), Bassey (pick 24), Hyland (2021 2nd round), Lewis (2021 2nd rounder), & Patrick Baldwin (MPJ clone drafted in 2022).

    2022/2023 Roster

    1 - Wall (32, to be traded) / KPJ (23)/ Thomas (27)
    2 - Cade (22) / Brooks (25) / Lewis (22)
    3 - Tate (27)/ Martin (21) / Baldwin (21)
    4 - Garuba (21) / Olynyk (31)
    5 - Wood (27) / Bassey (22)

    Thats a young, balanced team that can add a max level free agent in the offseason (or at the deadline by trding Wall).
     
    #71 sydmill, Jun 7, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2021
    BallaDoc and D-rock like this.
  12. Kevooooo

    Kevooooo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2014
    Messages:
    5,450
    Likes Received:
    4,369
    If we don’t get a top pick, I’d trade him for anything we can get of future value. Because the next two years aren’t going to be competitive if we don’t get a star in the draft to immediately start contributing and by the time we do get pieces he will be ready to win a ring and I can’t imagine him staying to see how we improve.
     
  13. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,883
  14. Clutch

    Clutch Administrator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    22,660
    Likes Received:
    31,896
    I may be wrong, but I think this will be a question over the next year. If the Rockets end up with the #2 or #3 pick (I'm not getting ahead of myself... I'm just happy if it's top 4, period) and Evan Mobley is a possibility, this may eventually become more of a reality.

    The problem with the Rockets is they should be selling off win-now pieces to teams thirsting to take that next step... The Heat, Knicks, Hawks, Clippers, Blazers, etc. The problem is... They don't have many win-now pieces that are attractive. Eric Gordon would be ideal but his contract hurts his value. I would think Wall is almost impossible to move without assets. That leaves, what ... House? Augustin? Maybe Olynyk in a sign-and-trade if you're lucky?

    This is an important year for CWood.
     
    Deuce, D-rock, BallaDoc and 9 others like this.
  15. Dobbizzle

    Dobbizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2021
    Messages:
    3,652
    Likes Received:
    6,013
    He's a solid player, but nobody's untouchable until we're back in contention. And that includes any high draft picks or players. Now, you wouldn't give him away for nothing as his skill set is great for the modern NBA, but if the offer's right you take it. Forget timelines and everything else, right now should simply be about improving the roster as much as possible. If that means flipping Wood, then so be it.
     
  16. sydmill

    sydmill Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    2,119
    I agree with the sentiment that selecting Mobley would seriously dampen the prospect of Wood staying with Houston. I just think his value as an asset to be moved begins to seriously outweigh his value on the court if Mobley is in the fold. With Cade, Green or Suggs (or the 18th pick) I think the Rockets would need to be bowled over by an offer to move Wood in the next year. I guess we will see soon...
     
    Plowman likes this.
  17. HoustonWest

    HoustonWest Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    605
    More likely than not Wood will be with the Rockets for part of or all of next season -- save for a couple of circumstances:
    • Houston is bowled over with an offer that's too good to pass up (Golden State offering a combination of Minnesota's pick and/or Wiseman)
    • Houston's lottery pick this year being outside of the top-4 and conveying to Oklahoma City may put more mutual desire to part with Wood (though for less in return than if Houston had more leverage by keeping their top-4 pick)
    The weeks after the draft lottery will be interesting to watch, leading up to the draft. Decent chance Wood gets traded on draft night.
     
  18. Magicsaint

    Magicsaint Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2017
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    1,032
    I think KO and CW both should stick around with the Rocket. They both can knock down 3s for a C/PF and also decently rebound. They both hustle and are unselfish. I am not saying they will be the core stars for this team but if Rockets are able to land a hopeful star at PG/SF in the draft then they both make a good fit. I do not think anyone should judge CW based on this past season which was simply injury and drama-plagued.
     
  19. Ming The King

    Ming The King Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2002
    Messages:
    1,790
    Likes Received:
    496
    Boston is another good trade destination for Wood.
     
  20. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    28,438
    Likes Received:
    43,633
    People questioning whether our wood is touchable

    tell them the truth @Jontro
     
    Jontro likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now