Should Amare and Diaw be banned for leaving the bench?

Doesn't change the fact that the hits were similar. He could've fouled in a much different way if all he wanted to do was stop the clock.

 

Kurt Thomas should earn his millions and break Duncan's leg.

 

a hip check and an elbow to Bell's face/neck.

 

If I were a Sun, I'd start a fight with Duncan. Throw a punch at him...if he responds, he's out. If he doesnt fight back, make sure the punch is hard enough to knock him out of a couple games.

I hate the F'ing Spurs!!!

 

By the rules, it's a pretty good decision. I hope that means that the NBA reviews the rules and how ridiculous all of these punishments are in the offseason.

 

i think a punch would leave more of a mark than those two combined

 

I dont think there is any chance the NBA will review this rule.

It should be the ball club's responsibility to make sure their players know this rule before they step on the court.

 

You really think Horry couldn't have given Nash a sloppy bear hug and gotten a call? The point it that a hard foul of any kind is completely uncalled for in that situation. Horry knocked him flat on his ass. Nash may have had a little 2 second acting job once he hit the ground, but Horry checking him a foot and a half into the table was legit and total BS. He didn't try to get an easy touch foul, he just decided he'd rather play hockey or arena football.

 

that's a bit of an overstatement.

 

So you're basing the penalty on how much of a mark the action leaves? Thats silly. Bottomline is that neither the hip check nor the elbow were necessary. Both came out of nowhere and were cheap shots.

 

You sure you know what you're talking about?? Check that previous post of mines earlier this morning. Turns out I was right on the money.

An altercation is any point of conflict. Surely a flagrant foul 2 is a point of conflict. And pushing and shoving was also going on between Horry and Bell, and whose feet were on the court at the time, Diaw and Amare.

 

Horry should have gotten a 3 game suspension if they gonna suspend sun's 2 starter.

anyway, duncan, tony, bowen or whoever better be prepare to get injured by sun's scrub (if spur gonna win the series). 1 backup for 2 starter, what a deal.

 

I work with the numbers on a yearround basis... the NBA popularity is pretty mediocre compared to the other two sports (at least in the US), and its reflected in the media coverage/ratings.

I thought it would be clear when Roger Clemens' comeback or the NFL draft pre-empts any NBA playoff coverage, but I guess its not.

 

So what are you supposed to do, say if you saw your teammate floored, or one of them is getting beaten up? Just sit on the bench and watch? That's very unrealistic... Wouldn't common sense dictate that you can get off the bench, and break up a fight, but if you escalate it then you get penalised? And put the harshest penalties on the first guy to throw a punch or whatever, to discourage a fight starting?

 

Actually there was no reason for anyone to do anything, Utah did nothing really when J-Rich made a worse flagrant on Okur, nothing happened, and no one was suspended.

Don't anyone say that the Suns aren't at fault for this, because they are, they knew the rules and they broke it.

You notice that no one on the Spurs bench was suspended, cause they acted like they were supposed to act.

 

the nfl draft has become a large event regardless of what it competes against, including baseball. for instance, the baseball draft doesn't receive nearly as much coverage as the nba draft.

is roger clemens comeback big news because its baseball, because its roger, or because its new york? I would guess that his returning to houston didn't receive nearly as much coverage. wasn't the brawl of a meaningless game in new york covered as much as the nfl which was either in the playoffs or close?

and its not only that you say its a distant third, its your reasoning that its a distant third because of incidents like this?

 

first, okur was basically asking for the foul. We all expect a foul coming if anyone gonna go to the basket strong when they already won the game. And second, hes isn't their best player and lack the "bonding" of those like YaoMac or Nash/amare/bell.

When Yao went down hard, T-mac pushed Collision to stand up for his big fella. And I'm pretty damn sure if it was T-mac that got the hard foul, and Yao/Juwan get suspend for 1 games during a playoff match we would all be flaming the NBA like hell.

Spur acted like they did b/c it damn well clear they were at fault! and they have nothing to lose but everything to gain!

 

Completely different situation... J-rich fouled Okur hard as they were both going up in a contested layup in the midst of game action (completely normal for playoff action)

Horry was supposed to foul Nash as soon as possible for a FT situation and purposely leveled him, when he merely had to grab him. (completely abnormal for any end of game situation)

Also, as dejected as the Spurs were, and considering where on the court the play took place, I'm not suprised at the differing reactions.

Lets not pretend that the Spurs are perfect... between Bowen's cheap-shots, Duncan's laughing, and Horry's physicality that "spurred" all of this... both teams are doing a great job at contributing to the chippiness of this series.

 

Hmm, don't the players know what the league rules are? Everyone knows you can't leave the bench. It has been that way for the longest now. The dummies got what they deserved.

I will admit the rule is BS and it may need to be changed, but there is no way you can let them break the rule and get away with it. Then what happens next round when you let them get away with it? It just makes it messier...

Oh, and Horry is still my favorite player ever. I still don't think the foul was that bad of a foul, but he threw a bow and deserved his suspension too.

 

A lot of people owe Joey Crawford an apology.

If this guy was still around, none of this crap would ever happen. The man can spot BS when he sees it. Forget altercations, give him as much as a grin an your are gone tossed aside to spectate the game. That would be the only way these girls would play nice without putting up a cat fight. It takes a man to lay the hammer down on this kind of nonsense, only if the refs officiating this series had the balls to toss Bowen for starting all this BS in the first place so non of this would happen.