I don't even know how you're comparing the situations. May as well just question why Ish Smith or Mike Harris didn't get the same opportunity as Brooks or Buddinger. Brooks, MIP award winner who has been with Adelman for years and earned his trust with great play... Buddinger, great rookie season, good attitude, and very coachable. Adelman liked him enough to tell Morey "don't trade this kid." Williams, sent to D-League with previous team, by all reports didn't even practice well with Rockets. Bad Attitude. Poor effort. Why should Adelman give him anywhere close to the same leeway as Buddinger and Brooks?
Yes f#@! Les and its cheap minded Rox Staffers always looking to get below the lux tax -_- .......... you dont spend big $$$$$ to acquire good talents, you dont win and you dont win if you are always looking to retain good players below their market value .. (Mandry) You dont trade a proven leader intagibles for a 7'3 pogo stick ........ you dont keep your errr we dont do and talk extension shieette during the season. Enough rant Will always be a rox fan forever but will not agree to what the managements smoking at
I'll never understand shortsighted fans that believe terrence williams is some kind of god or all star and worth everything.
You know, it is Clutch's job to be PC. He is the owner and administrator of the site and probably doesn't want to ruffle too many feathers. But imagine how he really feels when the guy he has stated on record as all that is good with the Rockets 60% of the people poll here want to get rid of. Thankfully I am just a nobody who can call a spade a spade without repercussions. Or in this case a horde of raging idiots a horde of raging idiots.
I've always assumed that Clutch said whatever he wanted to say here. I've yet to see any reason to doubt that. Do you seriously believe he's losing sleep over ruffling some feathers in the Rockets front office?
I wouldn't want to speak for Clutch, but if I were to guess, he'd think the 60% of people who want Morey fired are a bunch of stupid morans with their heads up their asses. But would rather just say something like "agree to disagree". Maybe that's not because he's worried about ruffling feathers like I put it. Maybe he's just a nicer guy than me.
I think you are confusing anger with mockery. I am not mad at you or your like Kwame. I am laughing at you.
Since OP is a fan of simplicity, I cut all the irrelevant stuff out of his post, which leaves the above.
Les's plan is Morey's plan. More often than not they are one and the same. It was Les that believed in analytics and brought Morey in. The only owner in the league to give a stats guy that big of a role. As for Adelman, I am almost positive that he wanted to keep them as well. I mean isn't that his big thing now, keeping the team together. As for if I think it was a good plan or not. YES it was. It is hilarious to read nowadays all the monday night quarterbacks, or even the ones who called it all along about how they KNEW we should have broken them up. Sorry to break it to you guys but in basketball and other parts of life you have to take bets. Good bets. And guess what, sometimes you lose on good bets.. because they are still bets. That doesn't mean they were wrong. Given Tmac and Yao's history, the odds of them stay healthy and winning a championship were slim. HOWEVER, the odds of winning a championship from breaking them up and rebuilding for years were even more slim, with no guarantee at the end of the tunnel. It is that hard to win and win big in this league, which is why as risky as it was to go allin on Tmac and Yao, two gimpy superstars, it was still the right plan. And a good bet.
Dumars had a plan too and look how that turned out after the success they had. Personally, the rebuild shouldve started 2 yrs ago, but i heard re-load, not rebuild. Now we're rebuilding which tells me morey didnt have a plan. I dont have an issue from this power struggle which has been going on for 3 yrs now. I do have a problem with the attractiveness of the job now. If the rox get enough money to throw at howard and williams, the coach in place will factor in. Players know and have seen the pelts by adelman, this new,cheap coach, not so much. I guess we will see.
How much of a factor was Phil Jackson when LA got their best players, Kobe and Gasol? Phil wasn't even there with Kobe and Gasol was traded there. How much of a factor was Eric Spoelstra when the big 3 signed in Miami? The better question, could Lebron and Bosh even pronounce his name? How much of a factor was Doc Rivers when they traded for Allen and KG? They were traded, not FA signings. Gregg Popovich is IMO the best coach in the league. How much of a factor was he when they got their top 3 players? Or were they all drafted? How many superstars have sign on to those team, to ANY teams, because of their legendary coach? If we are after Deron Williams and Dwight Howard, who our coach will be at the time will hardly be a factor in their decision to come here. Just like it wasn't for any of those teams and players.
if those players are real man, money will dictate everything. if they are sissy like lebron, then, i have no idea what a woman looks for.:grin:
When was the last time a player decided to go to a new club because of the coach? Now, once you've thought about that, now tell me how many times a player went to a new club because said club has attractive player(s) in place?
Coaches,gm's and owners make a huge difference in the recruiting process of free agents. Kobe was there because of West and gasol was traded there. During Kobe's free agent honeymoon, Rudy T, Jerry Buss,or Jackson made a huge differencene. Pat riley had a huge difference in not only attracting lebron and bosh, but keeping wade who was there also. Lebron and company know that if spolstra doesnt cut it, Riley can come down and coach. Garnett and Allen were traded while under contract and they love Rivers.Even if you use an average to good player like Okur and Boozer, they wanted to not only get paid, but play in a system that would help them become better players under a HOF coach in Sloan. Now, you can say coaching doesnt make a difference and undervalue it to agree with Morey, but players look at the coach,gm,and owner. There is a reason why guys take less to play for the lakers. They know La is always in win now mode and the owner will spare no expense to win a title. Player after player after player talk glowingly about Adelman and his system. When guys become free agents, they will choose adelman over alot of coaches if the money is close. If the rockets had the money and adelman is the coach, Howard and williams would talk to other players about adelman. If the rockets have say dwane casey, thats not a strong selling point.
