The Joker wouldn't have done that. This turd wants the apartment carefully and methodically disarmed, so the world will know how smart he is. Just another amoral loser who wants to be famous, and the media will give him exactly what he wants.
Warner Bros. yanks TV spots for 'TDKR' Studio in crisis-management mode in wake of deadly shootings http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118056866
I bet. There's too much money to lose for them to rush to any conclusion. I'm sure they'd like to say theyre going to stop showing the movie out of respect for the victims, but for how long and at what cost? I wonder if one of the shooter's priorities was to hurt them financially?
The turd is both evil and clever. Even if someone in the audience was carrying concealed, with the smoke and confusion, it wouldn't have made a difference.
It's not just this film, the public will be worried about copycats. Expect all attendance to drop for a few weeks, and don't be surprised if a few bigger pictures are pushed back, either weeks or months.
Definitely this weekend tdkr will hurt. In the long haul though everyone who wanted to see it will see it eventually in theaters
This. I don't understand the right wing logic. Against a fully armored maniac with an assault rifle, in a dark theater filled with smoke, to stand up and take aim would at the very least focus attention onto yourself and get you killed, or at worst you kill a fleeing victim by accident and the get killed.
He shoots the guy trying to shoot at him and he continues his barrage. He has an automatic you have a handgun. This isn't a movie. A 9mm is going to sting, but trying to get a head shot in crowded theater with smoke and darkness in any distance is unlikely. Most likely you will miss and hit someone else. Just holding the gun the still will be hard enough.
It's only take one or a couple of brave soul to take him down with their bare hands. But sadly that never happen in such chaos.
Not to mention it wasn't just plain ol' smoke but TEAR GAS. I don't think people grasp exactly how powerful tear gas is. Even without the visual of smoke itself, you can't breathe and keeping your eyes open is IMPOSSIBLE for someone trying to get a lick off of a heavily protected gunmen. People think emotionally instead of logically. This thread has been filled with further proof of that alone.
The odds of an untrained civilian taking this dude down in that environment are virtually nil. Most everyone is going to shoot for center body mass anyway.....right into the armor. He had a helmet on as well.
I don't understand your logic either. A bullet proof vest does not mean you are 100% bullet proof. There are still exposed areas. The gunman is not going be firing into a crowd as easily if he was being fired upon. The CHL doesn't have to stand up and expose himself before taking aim, either. Just like others say it would be hard for the CHL to differentiate the gunman from innocents, it would be much harder for the gunman to differentiate the CHL from others. The gunman is exposed, he is near the exit, innocents are running away from him, and he is identifiable with his gear (rifle, gas mask, vest). The CHL is taking cover in the seats, is within the crowd of panicking innocents, and is harder to identify in all the chaos. If the CHL is responsible, he will not fire unless there is a clear line of sight to prevent any innocents from getting hit in the cross fire. If he is able to occupy the gunman, maybe he will prevent more innocents from getting hit by the gunman. Again, I'm not saying having a CHL in the audience firing back would have saved everybody. It's only something we can speculate. Could it have saved some? Possibly. Could it have worsened the situation? Possibly as well. We have to look at the pros and cons of each scenario to determine the best possibility in a terrible situation. How would you guys feel if there was an off-duty officer in the theater with a CHL?
I thought it was illegal to sell an automatic weapon to civilians. Are you sure his AR-15 was automatic and not semi-automatic?
I've noticed a pattern in people who are firearm enthusiasts: they always love circumventing law enforcement procedures, and they overestimate their shooting abilities under pressure. No doubt some have a scary arsenal of weapons to defend a village against invading hordes of lefties, but too many think they're Jack Bauer.
I'd feel much safer with an off-duty cop nearby with a CHL instead of random people in the crowd that have very little firearm experience and would probably accidentally shoot someone else from the shock of the situation.
This is a reasonable argument. I would like to have an off-duty officer in the theater like the marshalls on airplanes. Unfortunately, most civilians do not have the training and discipline to have handled a situation like yesterday, so I disagree with the people who generally advocate that more guns for protection would've helped.
I just heard on the news that Holmes had rigged up his stereo to start playing very loudly at Midnight. The idea was apparently to draw an officer into breaking into his apartment and set off a firebomb. This would draw most of the authorities to his apartment building while he launched his killing spree at the movie theatre. That disturbingly sounds like what Breivik did in Norway. On the news they are saying that the police might just set off the device and let the fire department put it out rather than try to diffuse it.
CBS news is reporting that Holmes graduated with honors from UC Riverside in Neurobiology. Several people are describing as being painfully shy and quiet.
The guy is a psychopath, but this is clever. Scares me to know that serial killers like this guy aren't just depressed idiots.
