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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FTW Rockets FTW, May 3, 2015.

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  1. KingCheetah

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    This attack is giving you a serious freedom boner.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    This is how I know I make a great point against you. It pisses you off so bad you go on tilt and start making personal attacks and bring up the whole NY'er thing.

    You do it because you have nothing to say that's relevant to my discussion. It's too easy to tear down your bigoted views.

    You can't let go of anything. You hold onto hate. You can't let go of something that happened 10 years ago. No wonder you keep on ripping on Muslims, because you can't help it. You're obsessed. It's like a mental issue with you. Seriously, do you talk to anyone about it? There are professionals in Germany who can help you.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And 50% of Americans think Charlie Hebdo has a crush on Lucy who keeps pulling the football away from them.

    I sympathize with the German people for having to have you in their country.
     
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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Well it seems that Geller's hate exhibit was the target of terrorists, not just radicals.

    At the very least, we can thank Geller and Hebdo for pulling out the terrorists like flies to crap.
     
  5. houstonhoya

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    You've outdone yourself today Sweet Lou.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    In Texas, Hebdo is pronounced Brown. Silly Euros... :grin:
     
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    This is legally correct, of course. But in today's world, your actual freedom of speech in practice - not the 1st amendment - can be threatened by groups other than the government. Threats, intimidation and violence can have their origin in ideological and organized forces such as organized religion. Just as the Catholic church in medieval times was not the government, but still had enormous influence in curbing freedoms, including freedom of speech (an impact which still manifests itself in silly blasphemy laws even nowadays in Western democracies).

    So yes, you are correct, it was not about the First Amendment being threatened, but...

    ...but you are wrong about this one. It was about freedom of speech being threatened, just not by the government, but by manifestations of a globally active ideological movement.
     
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    I understand the historical context from which these laws were created, in light of the enormous guilt Germany and Germans rightly felt and feel for the monstrous actions of their people, and the intention to quell any kind of attempts at revisionist history.

    But overall, these laws don't fit my view that even distasteful speech should be protected.
     
  9. Remii

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    Crickets...

    I see ATW conveniently ignored this question and refused to address it.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    I see that you are a moron. But hey, I already knew this.

    Look above your dumbass drivel post, kid.
     
  11. Remii

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    JERUSALEM — Israel is on the brink of banning the N-word. N as in Nazi, that is.

    Parliament gave preliminary approval on Wednesday to a bill that would make it a crime to call someone a Nazi — or any other slur associated with the Third Reich — or to use Holocaust-related symbols in a noneducational way. The penalty would be a fine of as much as $29,000 and up to six months in jail.

    At least half a dozen European nations, along with Brazil, already prohibit the use of Nazi symbols and flags, along with those of other extremist groups, and a longer list consider Holocaust denial a crime (as Israel has since 1986)

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/1...ise-free-speech-questions.html?_r=0&referrer=

    Freedom of speech works in mysterious ways... But I guess it's perfectly fine to antagonize Muslims though. Americans are being used as sheep for this propaganda war against Islam. Banana, say hello to the tailpipe.
     
  12. Remii

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    My bad. Sweet Lou killed it with the Charlie Brown post and had me laughing so hard that I looked over your simple shyt. But it's interesting you live in a country and support a country that limits free speech but you're trying to tell people in other countries what their freedom of speech should be.
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    Idiots of the world unite: New Yorker, Remii, houstonhoya.
     
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    "The penal law code says Holocaust denial is a punishable offense," he said. "That ban limits press freedom and overrides the right to free expression in the mass media."

    "I've spoken with a lot of Americans, and they don't understand us," said Wolfgang Wippermann, a professor at the Freie University in Berlin who studies Nazism and right-wing extremism. "I tell them, 'In your country, drug dealers also go to prison; these Holocaust deniers are like drug dealers, but dealing in mental poison'."

    http://www.dw.de/trial-highlights-limits-of-free-speech-in-germany/a-1896750

    These foreigners don't even have freedom of speech but are blowing up American threads over freedom of speech. Hitler had a propaganda campaign against the Jews as well so I'm not surprised to see the same tactics being used by certain individuals.
     
  15. Commodore

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    it's perfectly legal to antagonize anyone
     
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    Maybe it's much different in Dallas than it is in Houston...but I don't feel remotely like my right to free speech is being threatened by ISIS or anyone else. I doubt seriously the people who showed up to this event really did either.
     
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    It is very different in Dallas. They've been having their free speech threatened for decades there. It's the reason Abbot wanted people to watch the Federal Troops, because he knew that they were really going to head to Dallas to cut down on people's free speech.

    Anyone in Dallas who criticizes Muslims or Islam in any way goes to prison camps. There has been a long history of it in Dallas. Luckily nowhere else in the United States has that happened.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">dear <a href="https://twitter.com/sallykohn">@sallykohn</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/rickygervais">@rickygervais</a> is mocking religion. do you believe his speech has gone too far and should be limited? <a href="http://t.co/O7WnhgUpEp">pic.twitter.com/O7WnhgUpEp</a></p>&mdash; Robert Beezer (@CaptBeezer) <a href="https://twitter.com/CaptBeezer/status/596318930630770689">May 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    An atheist, a vegan and a crossfitter walk into a bar...

    ...I only know this because within 2 minutes they had announced it to everyone.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Hmmm... I know some atheists that kept it to themselves for years because being vocal about their beliefs would result in being shunned by their families.
     

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