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[Shocking] Police Routinely Violate Rights Of "The Blacks" in Ferguson

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Boom.

    You can't rule out this playing a part.
     
  2. Jugdish

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    The DOJ report omitted the smoking gun: the FPD's constant emailing of Golden Girls YouTube clips back and forth.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    Why don't they just vote out the police officer who pulled them over to shake them down?

    You are indeed little confused - hardly surprising.
     
  4. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Back?
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    First of all, the data you presented does not counter much. It is the thinnest possible stand for a theory.

    1) Where are the patterns of correspondence that indicate pervasive ageism in the FPD? "Young people can't hold a steady job for four years."

    2) There is no data at all about citations and arrests by age so one cannot comment to say that it is or isn't disproportionate. The DOJ report has VERY detailed data points of disproportionate force on African-Americans. You'd have to argue that 35-50 whites and blacks are arrested at about the same rate: median or not, that seems a flimsy proposition given that blacks make up 90%+ of many citation categories despite being 67% of the population.

    All of this to say: if you want to take this thin thread of evidence as the foundational backing for your theory, you really have no room to question the DOJ's evidence.

    3) Speaking of that evidence, it never touches the following points highlighted in the report.

    This evidence [for racial bias] includes: The apparent consideration of race in assessing threat and the historical opposition to having African Americans live in Ferguson, which lingers among some today. We have also found explicit racial bias in the communications of police and court supervisors and that some officials apply racial stereotypes, rather than facts, to explain the harm African Americans experience due to Ferguson’s approach to law enforcement.

    Second of all, I don't see how anybody could add ageism to boot as a reason to "diminish" racism. That seems to me to be a desperate last-straw gasp. "They can't be racist: they're already ageist and maybe sexist!"

    Utterly illogical point. In fact, if they were ageist, they'd be more likely to be racist as they already cannot seem to reason without acting on stereotypes. We've gone from "the FPD has demonstrated DOCUMENTED racist thought patterns and corruption to save their friends" to "oh, they're also ageist (why not add sexist to boot)."

    Texxx is just sinking into a hole to defend the glorious FPD. LOL.

    it gets better

    wow. shining knights in armor.

    Oh and if we're talking about ageism---

    Oh right, ageism. You know, that thing where you assume children are committing crimes so you unleash unconstitutional force and send dogs to bite them. IT JUSTIFIES EVERYTHING!
     
  6. Amiga

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    Give up.

    Your inconsistent illogical racist arguments have been thoroughly ripped apart in this thread.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    No they have not.

    The DOJ had to find "something" here...and they had to find it and put it out to the news right before they cleared Officer Wilson of charges, to ensure there weren't additional violent riots and looting.

    The racist jokes from the FPD members were totally wrong. Some of the other things though could be challenged and need more facts to support them.

    And by the way -- if the DOJ investigated a predominately black police force, I suspect they might find some racist jokes going the other way, as well...
     
  9. HamJam

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    Then why did you never respond to my post in regards to your blaming the Ferguson and Garner protestors for the death of the cops in New York, and whether or not you thus similarly blamed the Tea Party and Libertarian movements for the deaths of the cops and citizens in Nevada?
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    The cuteness you show by expecting an actual back and forth with bigtexxx aside, Republicans never believe their side should be held to the same standards they hold to everyone else. It's conservative 101.
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    I stopped reading there. Why would I bother to read what you write or respons to it if you won't read what I write?
     
  12. Remii

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    With the tactics of the Ferguson police department... There is no reason at all to believe Wilson's word on anything as dirty as that police department has been proven to be. Even if there are good cops out there... When they turn a blind eye to the dirty deeds that their fellow police officers commit it makes them just as bad.

    I'm starting to agree with HamJam about what actions need to be taken.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    So Wilson was exonerated by the absolute worst, most bias AG in the history of this country but the rights of blacks are routinely violated in Ferguson?
     
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    Even if we don't argue about this AG being the most bias, that has little to do with blacks having their rights routinely violated, and Wilson being exonerated. The evidence available most certainly probably wasn't enough to prosecute Wilson, but that doesn't mean that the rights of blacks weren't routinely violated in Ferguson. They are two separate issues.
     
  17. CometsWin

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    It's funny how Holder is the most biased AG in history and Obama is the worst President in history. What are the odds? :grin:
     
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    Oh wow, these guys should probably attack police officers, go looting, then burn the town to the ground. Completely justified.
     
  19. CometsWin

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    2 Ferguson police officers quit; court clerk fired after Justice report
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-justice-department-report-fallout/index.html

    (CNN)Racist emails -- like one that depicted President Obama as a chimpanzee -- resulted in three Ferguson, Missouri, city employees resigning or being fired, the city spokesman said Friday.

    Police officers Capt. Rick Henke and Sgt. William Mudd resigned Thursday over the emails discovered during the U.S. Department of Justice investigation of racial prejudice in the city's police and judicial system, city spokesman Jeff Small said on Friday, citing the city attorney.

    The city's top court clerk, Mary Ann Twitty, was fired earlier this week in connection with the emails, Small said.

    Several employees forwarded the emails but until now none had been disciplined, the report said.

    Examples of the racist emails include one sent in October 2011 that showed a photo of bare-chested dancing women, apparently in Africa, with the caption "Michelle Obama's High School Reunion." A June 2011 email described a man trying to put his dogs on welfare because the canines were "mixed in color, unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no ... clue who their Daddies are."

    Some critics have called for the department to be disbanded and for Police Chief Thomas Jackson to resign.

    In a Friday interview with CNN's Sara Sidner, Ferguson Mayor James Knowles said Jackson was not copied on any of the emails.

    When asked if Jackson and the city manager may be fired, Knowles said, "We're going to do our due diligence and hold people accountable."

    Knowles also said he doesn't think the department will be disbanded.

    When asked about what happens next in Ferguson, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Friday, "We are prepared to use all the power that we have, all the power that we have to ensure that the situation changes there. And that means everything from working with them to coming up with an entirely new structure."

    When a reporter asked if that included dismantling the police force, Holder replied, "If that's what's necessary then we are prepared to do that."

    Holder ordered the investigation after a white police officer, Darren Wilson, shot and killed black teenager Michael Brown last summer, setting off months of sometimes violent street protests in the town outside St. Louis.

    The DOJ declined to bring charges against Wilson, who has since left the force. No state charges were filed either.

    In a separate report, the Justice Department described what it said was a "pattern and practice" of discrimination against African-Americans by the Ferguson police and municipal courts. That discrimination included racist emails.

    Ferguson is a town of 21,000 that is 67% African-American.

    Among the findings in the report:

    From 2012 to 2014, 85% of people subject to vehicle stops by Ferguson police were African-American, 90% of those who received citations were black, and 93% of people arrested were black.

    In 88% of the cases in which Ferguson police officers reported using force, it was against African-Americans. From 2012-2014 black drivers were twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26% less likely to be found in possession of contraband.
     
  20. HamJam

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    If it wasn't for the riots in Ferguson this report and the national attention it is receiving would not exist.

    If the people there, or in the countless other parts of the country that are just as bad, want change to follow on the heels of this report, then we need to do more rioting, civil disobedience and uncontrollable protests -- not less.

    The backlash against the police and the justice system is not only justified, it is long overdue.
     

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