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Shocking Development re: CSN Houston...

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Mattj, Sep 27, 2013.

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  1. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Crane says Comcast never offered anything &quot;remotely close&quot; to $150 mil in revenue needed for CSNH to make money.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394866050371551233">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Comcast had most favored nation status, so it would have paid less for CSNH sub fees had DirecTV deal gone through, Crane says.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394866571505442817">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>That would have cost CSNH even more money, Crane says.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394866773758996481">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  2. RockFanFirst

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    ...but alienate 60% of the 2.2 million viewers in Houston that pay money for their product? Doubtful.
     
  3. Nook

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    Bingo!
     
  4. danielcp0303

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    sorry if this is a stupid question...but who is asking Crane the questions? Do lawyers for both sides get to ask him questions?
     
  5. Granville

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    Crane didn't know this when he bought the team??? That's on him, not the Network. They pay south of what everyone else pays, what's his point? He should have factored that in to his decision to buy the team.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Doubtful? Rockets had a very successful season last year and got paid well by Comcast for it. They are going to have an even better year now with or without 2.2 million viewers.
     
  7. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Crane says Astros opposed May 10 distribution offer by unnamed provider because it would have not made CSNH profitable by itself.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394872734640926721">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Comcast says offer might have had domino effect on other carriers, but Crane says net was on path to lose up to $200 mil.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394873307981307905">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  8. danielcp0303

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    I think it's time Charlie declared Kangaroo Court
     
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    that makes sense. thanks
     
  10. LonghornFan

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    I'm not leaving this thread today. Just gonna come back and F5 it all...day...long.
     
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    Hilarious. Crane rejected a May 10th offer because it didn't include all carriers basically.

    So for him it was all or none.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>CSNH hearing in recess. Back this afternoon.</p>&mdash; David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/394875576344780800">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  13. danielcp0303

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    awwwwwwww
     
  14. otis thorpe

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    what equity do the teams have in this partnership. i don't think its equity, i think the rockets like their broadcasting rights fees from comcast. they just want to get on television.
     
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    Who's being naive, REEKO...

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    i think this is where i disagree. The broacast fee deal is loan being paid in payments.

    i've said this for a while now, i think that there is a loan agreement that says if you don't sign a carriage fee deal, we will stop paying you and its going to get into who gains control of the partnership.

    i think it has to be that way or comcast and the rockets to a lessor extent wouldn't even attempt to keep the partnership together.
     
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    I really hate it when people throw out the "60%" number... mainly because a good number of the 60% of the population that is not getting CSN now was also not getting FSN as well.

    100% of Houston does not have cable or satellite. We do know that 40% of the city has comcast (and CSN), by far the largest subscriber base of either cable or satellite in the city.

    I'd like to see of the 60% that don't have comcast, what % of the city actually has satellite/other cable. My guess its just another 20% or so... meaning 1/3 of the city does not have cable/satellite at all. Again, just a guess... based on usual demographics of big cities.
     
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    i think more than 60% of the households have basic cable broadcasting, be it satellite, comcast, or what not.
     
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    I don't think it's 40% of the city has Comcast, rather 40% of the tv subscribers in the city with the other 60% of tv subscribers being the other carriers.

    So yes, it's really 60% of the television sets in the city don't have CSN.
     
  20. otis thorpe

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    i agree, but not all those 60% have some sort of cable/satellite broadcasting i think is what he is saying. so some people aren't in the market at all for CSN
     
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