LOL!!! Obviously you didn't read my previous post bud. I said they were justified in using their nightsticks but to a point. Check it again, please do. I have concerns for his actions, he should have been subdued and arrested for what he did and he was. I just don't agree with the officers there taking free swings and kicks at him. I understand he tried to attack them before the camera started rolling but what I see on the camera is a man lying on the ground getting beaten, not trying to fight back and at that point he should have been restrained by the multiple law enforcement officers there, cuffed, and taken to jail.
I think it can be too much to expect of people. You tell people to be violent but "not that violent". Ten hits to the head is ok, but not 20. I don't know if that is possible. And in the mean time, the actions of the other are dismissed and absolved. We aren't talking about nonviolent resistance for a cause or ideal, unless skateboarding on a city street or driving drunk on pcp at 100 mph is some fundamental human right. I just have a hard time labeling them as complete victims. They hold the keys to their own fate.
No, but I can see why it happened. They are human like you and me but deal with a lot of crazy stuff. The difficulties must be stressful. If the girl knowingly broke the law she directly put herself in a position to let the policeman's tension get to her. The one sided blame game is bogus. There are many factors involved.
Well if you aren't willing to follow proper procedures, then don't become a police officer. A lot of trust is put on them, they have a duty to uphold the law in a lawful manner. So what if Rodney King deserved a beating, that doesn't mean it's legal to continue to club him with battons all over his body. His punishment was for the courts to decide. The same with these kids. We don't know all the facts yet, but you can't honestly tell me that breaking an ordinance like that is considered an arrestable offense. They should have been warned and then ticketed if they continued. Obviously the officer didn't go by the book as he wouldn't be suspended right now and under investigation.
King brought it on himself. So did the skaters. Yeah, courts are there. So don't resist arrest and fight your ticket.
Maybe, maybe not. At least one of the skaters was charged with striking a city employee (not the cop) - conveniently, that wasn't on the video tape that the skaters released. Who knows what else wasn't seen by us.
The kids were being little punks and the cop was being a dick, this type of stuff happens everyday except this time it was caught on camera. The cop did use excessive force IMO but video clearly shows the kids trying to run away and resist arrest. But I bet this cop was darn proud for cleaning up the mean streets of Hot Springs, Ark by choking a 13 year old girl.
http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news...e-officer-skateboarder-scuffle/?news/arkansas A Hot Springs police officer seen fighting with skateboarders in a video posted online used the proper amount of force when making his arrests, an internal investigation by police found. The report, signed by five officers, found Officer Joey Williams confronted a situation that “would have overwhelmed any single officer” when he stopped those breaking city ordinance by skateboarding on a downtown sidewalk June 21. However, the investigation faulted Williams for leaving a handcuffed suspect unattended while chasing another youth in the resort town’s historic Bathhouse Row. “I think it was fair,” City Manager Kent Myers said. Witnesses “consistently supported the actions of the officer and his efforts to control the situation.” Video of the episode from a business’ security cameras show 10 skateboarders rolling down the city sidewalk, followed by Williams, who sprints past the last skater. A video taken by skateboarders and later posted to YouTube shows Williams on top of one of the skaters. The video also showed Williams putting another two skateboarders in a headlock and the officer can later be heard threatening to use pepper spray on a skateboarder lying on the ground. What remains unclear is what led up to Williams chasing one of the skateboarders down the sidewalk. Myers said it was “premature” to discuss what provoked the scuffle, saying it would be part of an coming court case against those charged in the incident. Police said they arrested four youths and Matthew Jon McCormack, 21, and Skylar Nalls, 19, both of Hot Springs. McCormack faces a misdemeanor battery charge accusing him of pushing or striking a 67-year-old city employee during the melee. Nalls was cited for skateboarding and faces misdemeanor charges of fleeing and obstructing governmental operations. YouTube shows the video has been viewed more than 1.4 million times since it was posted June 25. Since the YouTube video hit the Internet, Williams has been on administrative leave. Police said he would return Thursday to active duty in the city’s downtown. In their report, the officers described the June 21 event as being “part of a planned participation in a nationwide anti-authority demonstration.” However, organizers of Go Skateboarding Day describe the event organized by skateboarding companies as an effort to encourage more people to take up the skateboarding. Those around the country who took part brought video cameras to record their tricks to win contest prizes, said John Bernards, executive director of the International Association of Skateboard Companies, based in Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. Myers acknowledged the investigation wouldn’t have happened without the YouTube video, but said the city had no immediate plans to post its own video response on the site. “I think it shows the power of the Internet,” Myers said.
Thanks. I guess we'll have to see what happens, the kid has only been charged with that, could come out that never happened. Honestly since we dont know all the details yet, I would think the police should go by what they see off the tape and at least suspend the guy until this all settles. Just my opinion though
Again, police officers should act lawful. You see high-speed chases all the time and many are convicted felons or have rap sheets a mile long. Why don't they get a beating like King did? I think it is because police officers are trained not to kill at will and follow certain procedures. Yes, physical force must sometimes be used but the problem is when it becomes excessive.
I am certainly not a police officer, but it is generally my understanding that the degree of physical force that they train them to use would be viewed as excessive by the average 'man on the street'. In my understanding, this is because a brief but large display of force by the officer will greatly reduce the chance a countering use of force by the 'suspect' or whatever you want to call them.
But you've already made the judgment that the officer was in the wrong. Why are you waiting "to see what happens" now? And now you admit not knowing all the details. Maybe the police know more about the details than any of us do and that's why he's not suspended. All we have is the video with the kids acting innocent. Maybe there's evidence they already have that they've already reviewed in the internal investigation that clears the man at least in their eyes from having to be suspended.
he is in the wrong....regardless if this kid striked a public official or not. I say wait and see because i'll sympathize more with the cop if it turns out this particular skater teen did assault someone. Doesnt mean I will then think what he did was right. Why are people already claiming what he did was right...like me, they dont know if this kid is innocent or not, he was charged with "striking" someone, but thats not guilty.
