Shelburne: Thinks Clint Capela is leaning fowards taking his qualifying offer

lock him in

 

Hopefully this doesn't happen

 

Isaiah Hartenstein is ready to be on the receiving end of PnR lobs if Capela doesn't act right

 

Nobody deserves nohtin'. It's only about what you can negotiate. Deserve has got nothing to do with it in the real world. Real life sucks but it's real life.

 

Shelbourne's sudden interest makes me think the Lakers are interested in bringing Clint over next year, which....duh

 

Shelburne talking about other people's leaning.

 

You get what you can negotiate for.

 

There’s no reason to give him a max contract. Offer him 4 years 50 mil and he should take it.

If he gets injured next year, he’ll get nothing.

 

I get why Clint would take a QO but I think that has more to do with the lack of a market for him to leverage this year than anything Houston did. My question though is - who is going to be a market player next year that isn't this year? I can't imagine next year's market will be significantly better - most teams are still capped out, and in general bigs are relatively low priority for most teams looking for FA talent. As good as Clint is, his value to teams is mostly on the defensive side of the ball - it takes an elite distributor to unlock Clint's offensive value and we have the very best at that. Clint can do some things offensively but his setting screens and diving to the hoop is wasted on most teams.

...as for Ramona Shelburne, she is a legit insider but I don't necessarily think she knows much outside of the Lakers organization. Everything she is going to hear is likely going to be colored through that lens....I wouldn't be surprised if this is a "seed" to plant in Clint's camp so the Lakers can try to chase him next year.

 

Him taking the q/o doesn't mean he wants to leave....he just didn't get enough $$... I said this on another thread, why can't we wait for ryno to get moved next year and sign capella out right during free agency. I know it is more of a risk in losing him.

 

I think if Capela signs the QO, the Rockets know they need to develop / find a replacement and they give their other 3 young big men more opportunity to step up this year. Clint is great in the Rockets system, but he's potentially a replacement level player for almost any other team given his bad FT%, and inability to create his own shot. Maybe he improves in those areas, but right now, he's far more valuable to the Rockets than anyone else.

Some other team may take an insanely risky flyer on him (which they will almost certainly regret down the road) or Clint can lock in his future with the Rockets and sign a long term deal for ~$15M a year. His agent might not like that, but Clint shouldn't take necessary risks at this point in his career. If he continues to progress with the Rockets, a max deal will be available in 3 to 4 years. In the interim he will have secured his financial future in the event of an injury, unexpected regression or the possibility his game doesn't translate to another team.

 

I love Clint but if he’s trying to break bank with his limited ass offense, he can just go get the money. He will need great guards to extend his career over 10 years. If not... he will fall off.

 

Capela is being stupid. He’s not a max guy based on what he has shown thus far. He’s worth a good amount but this nonsense over putting a sad face on twitter is dumb. He’s acting like he’s gonna be making chump change. He’ll still be making 15 plus million a year to play basketball and he’s crying about that. One year of that salary and he will be set for life. This would be understandable if every team in the league was throwing max offers, but come on man. Capela is a fantastic role player who fits our team like a glove but his whining is a bit concerning...

 

^ perfectly said... sometimes these agents mess with these kid’s heads and eff up their careers. Remember when the Kings made a very fair offer to Bonzi Wells that one year? Wells’ agent filled his head with garbage and the Kings ended up pulling back the deal. Bonzi was so regretful about the money that it leaked into his game and a few years later was out of the league...Capela needs to keep things in perspective and stay humble.

 

Him taking the qo means he didn't get the money he wanted from the Rockets and can look to get that next summer with the Rockets being unable to control him. Why would the Rockets risk that just to end up paying him what he wants next summer (assuming at that time he would still want to be here which is definitely not a given)?

 

Shelburne is leaning towards signing up for the Chipotle Platinum Pass. Sites being able to "skip to the front of the line" and "free guac on everything" as the main reasons why.

 

Capela isn't going to take only $4.75 million this season as a favor to the Rockets. If Capela takes the qualifying offer, I would be VERY worried. Chances are he'll find a very lucrative offer elsewhere next summer and will bolt a Houston team he will have perceived as low-balling him the prior summer.

The overwhelming likelihood is that the sides will EVENTUALLY come to an agreement on a long-term deal. Restricted free agency typically takes a while to sort itself out. Be patient.

 

here we go...

 

Spoiler

Have a center/future center
Sixers (Joel Embiid)
Bulls (Robin Lopez, Wendell Carter Jr., Cristiano Felicio, Omer Asik)
Celtics (Al Horford, Robert Williams III), Grizzlies (Marc Gasol)
Jazz (Rudy Gobert)
Kings (Willie Cauley-Stein, Harry Giles, Kosta Koufos)
Magic (Nikola Vucevic, Bismack Biyombo, Mohamed Bamba)
Nets (Jarrett Allen)
Nuggets (Nikola Jokic)
Pacers (Myles Turner)
Pelicans (Anthony Davis)
Pistons (Andre Drummond)
Suns (DeAndre Ayton)
Thunder (Steven Adams)
Wolves (Karl-Anthony Towns)
Blazers (Jusuf Nurkic(currently RFA), Zach Collins)

Working on one-year/expiring deals
Clippers (Marcin Gortat)
Hawks (Dewayne Dedmon)
Knicks (Enes Kanter)
Lakers (JaVale McGee)
Mavs (DeAndre Jordan)
Warriors (DeMarcus Cousins, Kevon Looney)
Wizards (Dwight Howard)

**All are expected to have cap space except the Warriors

I don't think any of these teams are married to their centers but most don't have cap space.
Bucks (John Henson, Thon Maker, Tyler Zeller)
Cavs (Tristan Thompson, Ante Zizic, Kendrick Perkins)
Heat (Hassan Whiteside, Bam Adebayo)
Hornets (Cody Zeller, Willy Hernangomez, Timofey Mozgov, Mangok Mathiang)
Raptors (Jonas Valanciunas, Jakob Poeltl)
Rockets (Nene, Chinanu Onuaku, Zhou Qi)
Spurs (Pau Gasol)

 

Spoiler

Salary by AAV (Yeah, I listed some power forwards...)

• Blake Griffin: 5 years, $171,174,820 (AAV: $34,234,964; $29,512,900--$31,873,932--$34,234,964--$36,595,996--$38,957,028)

• Paul Millsap: 3 years, $91,500,000 (AAV: $30,500,000; $31,269,231--$29,730,769--$30,500,000)

• Joel Embiid: 5 years, $146,450,000 (AAV $29,290,000; $25,250,000--$27,270,000--$29,290,000-$31,310,000--$33,330,000)

• Nikola Jokic: 5 years, $146,450,000 (AAV $29,290,000; $25,250,000--$27,270,000--$29,290,000-$31,310,000--$33,330,000)

• Al Horford: 4 years, $113,326,230 (AAV: 28,331,557; $26,540,100--$27,734,405--$28,928,710--$30,123,015)

• Anthony Davis: 5 years, $127,171,313 (AAV: $25,434,262; $22,116,750--$23,775,506--$25,434,263--$27,093,019--$28,751,775)

• Andre Drummond: 5 years, $127,171,313 (AAV: $25,434,262; $22,116,750--$23,775,506--$25,434,263--$27,093,019--$28,751,775)

• Steven Adams: 4 years, $100,000,000 (AAV: $25,000,000; $22,471,910--$24,157,303--$25,842,697--$27,528,090)

• Hassan Whiteside: 4 years, $98,419,537 (AAV: $24,604,884; $22,116,750--$23,775,506--$25,434,263--$27,093,018)

• Rudy Gobert: 4 years, $97,000,000 (AAV: $24,250,000; $21,974,719--$23,491,573--$25,008,427--$26,525,281)

• Dwight Howard: 3 years, $70,500,000 (AAV: $23,500,000; $23,180,275--$23,500,000--$23,819,725; Just signed for 1 year, $5.3M)

• Marc Gasol: 5 years, $113,222,750 (AAV: $22,644,550; $19,700,000--$21,165,675--$22,642,350--$24,119,025--$25,595,700)

• Serge Ibaka: 3 years, $65,000,000 (AAV: $21,666,666; $20,061,729--$21,666,667--$23,271,604)

• Brook Lopez: 3 years, $63,808,025 (AAV: $21,269,341; $20,000,000--$21,165,675--$22,642,350)

• DeAndre Jordan: 3 years, $63,308,025 (AAV: $21,102,675; $19,500,000--$21,165,675--$22,642,350; Just signed 1 year, $24M)

• Enes Kanter: 4 years, $72,735,154 (AAV: $18,183,788; $16,400,000--$17,145,838--$20,566,802--$18,622,514)

• Joakim Noah: 4 years, $72,590,000 (AAV: $18,147,500; $17,000,000--$17,765,000--$18,530,000--$19,295,000)

• Greg Monroe: 3 years, 51,384,176 (AAV: 17,128,058; $16,400,000--$17,100,000--$17,884,176)

• Bismack Biyombo: 4 years, $68,000,000 (AAV: $17,000,000; $17,000,000--$17,000,000--$17,000,000--$17,000,000)

• Draymond Green: 5 years, $82,039,130 (AAV: $16,407,826; $14,300,000--$15,330,435--$16,400,000--$17,469,565--$18,539,130)

• Tristan Thompson: 5 years, $82,000,000 (AAV: 16,400,000; $14,260,870--$15,330,435--$16,400,000--$17,469,565--$18,539,130)

• Timofey Mozgov: 4 years, $64,000,000 (AAV: $16,000,000; $16,000,000--$15,280,000--$16,000,000--$16,720,000)

• Ian Mahinmi: 4 years, $64,000,000 (AAV: $16,000,000; $15,944,154--$16,661,641--$15,944,154--$15,450,051)

• Jonas Valanciunas: 4 years, $64,000,000 (AAV: $16,000,000; $14,382,022--$15,460,675--$16,539,326--$17,617,977)

• Pau Gasol: 3 years, $48,000,000 (AAV: $16,000,000; $16,000,000--$16,000,000--$16,000,000)

• DeMarcus Cousins: 4 years, $63,451,844 (AAV: $15,862,961; $13,701,250--$14,728,844--$16,957,900--$18,063,850; Just signed for 1 year, $5.3M)

• Gorgui Dieng: 4 years, $62,800,000 (AAV: $15,700,000; $14,112,360--$15,170,787--$16,229,213--$17,287,640)

• Cody Zeller: 4 years, $56,000,000 (AAV: $14,000,000; $12,584,270--$13,528,090--$14,471,910--$15,415,730)

• Mason Plumlee: 3 years, $41,000,000 (AAV: $13,666,666; $14,041,096--$12,917,808--$14,041,096)

• Robin Lopez: 4 years, $54,365,500 (AAV: $13,591,375; $13,000,000--$13,219,250--$13,788,500--$14,357,750)

• Tyson Chandler: 4 years, $52,000,000 (AAV: $13,000,000; $13,000,000--$12,415,000--$13,000,000--$13,585,000)

• Nikola Mirotic: 2 years, $25,000,000 (AAV: $12,500,000; $12,500,000--$12,500,000)

• Miles Plumlee: 4 years, $50,000,000 (AAV: $12,500,000; $12,500,000--$12,500,000--$12,500,000--$12,500,000)

• Kenneth Faried: 4 years, $50,000,000 (AAV: $12,500,000; $11,235,955--$12,078,652--$12,921,348--$13,764,045)

• Marcin Gortat: 5 years, $60,000,000 (AAV: $12,000,000; $10,434,782--$11,217,391--$12,000,000--$12,782,609--$13,565,218)

• Nikola Vucevic: 4 years, $48,000,000 (AAV: $12,000,000; $11,250,000--$11,750,000--$12,250,000--$12,750,000)

• Derrick Favors: 4 years, $47,816,666 (AAV: $11,954,166; $12,833,333--$11,933,333--$11,050,000--$12,000,000; Just signed for 2 years, $36M)

• Kelly Olynyk: 4 years, $45,610,824 (AAV: $11,402,706; $10,607,169--$11,137,527--$11,667,885--$12,198,243)

• John Henson: 4 years, $44,250,004 (AAV: 11,062,501; $12,517,606--$11,422,536--$10,577,466--$9,732,396)

• Amir Johnson: 1 year $11,000,000 (AAV: $11,000,000; Just signed for veteran's minimum $2.4M)

• Omer Asik: 5 years, $54,764,042 (AAV: 10,952,808; $11,000,000--$9,904,494--$10,595,505--$11,286,516--$11,977,527)

• Jon Leuer: 4 years, $41,000,000 (AAV: $10,250,000; $10,991,957--$10,497,319--$10,002,681--$9,508,043)

• Meyers Leonard: 4 years, $41,000,000 (AAV: $10,250,000; $9,213,484--$9,904,495--$10,595,506--$11,286,515)

• Al Jefferson: 3 years, $30,000,000 (AAV: $10,000,000; $10,230,179--$9,769,821--$10,000,000)

• Dwight Powell: 4 years, $37,268,750 (AAV: $9,317,187; $8,375,000--$9,003,125--$9,631,250--$10,259,375)

• Trevor Booker: 2 years, $18,375,000 (AAV: $9,187,500; $9,250,000--$9,125,000)

• Kosta Koufos: 4 years, $32,679,000 (AAV: $8,169,750; $7,500,000--$8,046,500--$8,393,000--$8,739,500)

• Cristiano Felicio: 4 years, $32,000,000 (AAV: $8,000,000; $7,843,500--$8,470,980--$8,156,500--$7,529,020)

• Channing Frye: 4 years, $31,210,938 (AAV: $7,802,734; $8,175,476--$7,807,579--$7,806,971--$7,420,912)

• Darrell Arthur: 3 years, $22,999,999 (AAV: $7,666,666; $8,070,175--$7,464,912--$7,464,912)

• Cole Aldrich: 3 years, $21,900,000 (AAV: $7,300,000; $7,643,979--$7,300,000--$6,956,021)

• Boban Marjanovic: 3 years, $21,000,000 (AAV: $7,000,000; $7,000,000--$7,000,000--$7,000,000)

• Ed Davis: 3 years, $20,019,198 (AAV: $6,673,066; $7,000,000--$6,666,667--$6,352,531; Just signed 1 year, $4.4M)

• Karl-Anthony Towns: 4 years, $25,720,035 (AAV: $6,430,008; $5,703,600--$5,960,160--$6,216,840--$7,839,435)