Shelburne: Thinks Clint Capela is leaning fowards taking his qualifying offer

And just to add since i can't edit, Knicks, Mavs and Spurs can still go after Irving, Cousins, Butler etc...i don't even think it's guaranteed there'll be that big market for Clint next summer.

 

Probably saw Steven Adams get 4 years and $100M and wants something like $20M per.

 

And those are great odds for late 1st/2nd rounders.

Great job Daryl!

 

I’d been think about this for some time..... couldn’t this be a way to circumvent the system??? Not sure of the ramifications but couldn’t the rockets and Clint pretend to not be able to come to any agreement and he just play this year under the QO and get his payday next year... 5yrs plus and come off that and be a 10yr vet where he’d get a bigger payday?


Saves the rockets from the LT next year right? Clint sacrifices for 1 more year then cashes in....

Kinda of a win win for both side...... am I simplifying this too much @BimaThug

 

If the Rockets man a decent offer to Capela...like around $17 mill per....and he still wants to take the QO then let him. He will be extremely motivated next season to get his dollars which will help the team even moreso.

 

That would also make him unrestricted and give him the chance to sign wherever he wants taking away from the Rockets the chance to match, if he takes the qo it's not good at all for us.

 

I'm aware of the QO ramifications but if the Rockets made a solid offer and he's still not taking it then that's on Capela and his camp. On the flip side, if the Rockets lowballed him or didn't even put an offer on the table then that's a royal F up by Morey.

Either way a Capela on a QO offer will pretty much guarantee us a man on a mission to destroy the league next year, which isn't a bad thing.

 

Yeah but, realistically, a Capela on a mission is not what will make us win...and i don't really know what the Rockets offer is, the problem here is that if he takes the qo he can still get paid in another team, but we can't generate a similar player/asset if he leaves for free. We have more to lose here imo.

 

So are we going to pretend like we didnt see this coming? Wasnt Scola the last RFA we had that we actually made a "decent" offer on?

 

It’s the sound move for Capela. He has improved by leaps and bounds and has continued to improve. If I were him I’d bet on myself too and expect to be rewarded.

As a Rocket fan I’d be thrilled if he took an offer that was in the cheap based on his talent, potential, and work ethic. But he has every right to cash in on his market value, and I doubt teams knowing that the Rockets can match any offer will bog themselves down with a serious offer sheet.

 

I can't recall a single case where a player took a QO and then re-signed with the same team afterwards, so Clint taking the QO means he's very likely gone next year.

Even if he gives us a great productive year for $4M, it doesn't line up with our championship window. This upcoming year is when the Warriors are the most strong with the addition of Cousins. On top of that we've just lost Ariza. The year AFTER next year is when the Warriors will start breaking down. Cousins will have left for more money, provided he plays well, and then Draymond and Klay very likely part ways with Golden State - and of course Durant can opt out as well. In all likelihood, Golden State loses Klay, maybe keeps Draymond and perhaps can keep Durant. But they lose Cousins and Iguodala will be 36 turning 37 during that season. With CP3 and Harden locked up, the 2019 - 2020 season is what matters more for us and Capela makes a huge difference in making sure we stay ahead of LA, Boston, and Philly when the time comes.

 

I'd offer him a contract FT%-incentivized. Hello 30 ppg Capela!

 

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you here since you're a member of the OPM. Capela knows his role--it's what got him to this point where, if there were teams with cap room, he could have gotten a max offer. Being "on a mission" means he's going to work harder on slamming down those alleys and converting on the PnRs but also harder on defense. He's not going to all of a sudden go Dwight on us and demand touches on the low block and put up hook shots or 10 foot bunny shots. He's smarter than that. The glaring risk is that he could bolt next summber....but if Morey and Fertitta made a competitive offer (4 years/ $64-$68 million) and he still turns it down in this depressed market, I don't think you can't blame our owner or GM for not offering more.

 

im also cautious of the mindset though he will be playing with. Is he going to be a bit resentful bc the rockets dont value him as much as he thought or saw himself. Or does he play freely like he has been.

 

What's the OPM?

Anyway i do agree with you about him knowing his role etc, but he's still not even close to being a star or a player with that kind of impact, i do think he'll play even better next season cause i think he still has room to improve, but eh...the biggest problem here is keeping him instead of letting him leave of course, we need him on the court or as an asset eventually, sucks that we don't really know the kind of money they discussed when they met, personally, i think on a 75/80M x 4 would still be worth it for us, i'd be with you if he would ask for a max, and even then, losing him would still be bad for us cause we wouldn't have any realistic option to get better (maybe i'm a bit too pessimistic here but eh...maybe not).

 

That's also a risk but if I'm Capela and I signed the QO to get back onto the market next summer, there's no way I'm going to screw it up. His work ethic since he got to the Rockets has been superb from what I've seen. This isn't like a Nerlens Noel situation where he was a headcase in Philly, then went to Dallas, turned down $70 million, became a headcase and now is only getting a veteran's minimum.

He's smart enough to know that if he's going to play anything less than the Capela we know next year Harden and Paul will make sure that lucrative contract he's looking for won't happen.

 

Otto Porter Movement!

My fear is that Morey DIDN'T throw out a competitive offer initially and tried to Clutchfans him by offering $12 million a year. I'm sure if $16-17 mill a year was on the table Capela would be back by now.

 

im extremely curious to know what the offers have been for CC

 

I have no doubt we tried to lowball him too (the 12M per year is exactly what i thought), i just wonder what's the kind of money he expects, if it's the max we might be screwed, but i agree that a 16/17M per year would still be very good value for us, unfortunately remains to be seen what Capela thinks about that.

 

I think we'll eventually find out or might know the range if news breaks that Capela signed the QO sheet.