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  1. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

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    Could all the Rasheed/Antonio Davis/etc etc leaked rumors simply be red herrings to cover our pursuit of Jermaine O'Neal, which Aldridge leaked and which we're not supposed to do officially until July 1 or after?

    Of course Indiana might have told us what to go do with ourselves. Still....
     
  2. sydmill

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    06-27-2003 05:14 PM

    nope...my contention is that K-mart's play is more a product of Kidd's brilliant playmaking than anything else


    Just because Kidd is brilliant doesn't make K-Mart a piece of anything. He's not a bust at the number one he's a good player that adds great energy and creates mismatches at the 4 when they try to guard him. He has come a long way as far as growing up and maintaining his temper. Your simply being a hater. Saying he only gets respect because kidd is so good, is like saying without Kidd he wouldn't be good at all. And he will prove you wrong next year. Plus he came into the NBA with a severe injury he sustained his senior year. And his first two seasons he was still recovering. HATER
     
  3. jshabang

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    K mart is a bust big time........Think about it, you never even heard his name when starbury was there, he sucked

    Jason makes decent players look like all stars because of his pure point talent, thats why he's the number one free agent this year ahead of oneal and the other guys.......

    Look at Shawn Marion, while he is awesome, his numbers slipped a tad this year..............Hummmmmm.....I wonder why??????

    Watch Kmart and Richard Jefferson and the whole nets team next year, you'll see

    They won't even make the playoffs

    Thats hoe good kidd is.......the spurs will take him over O'neal or any other free agent hand s down

    Parker is no kidd and they know it
     
  4. pradaxpimp

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    I 2nd this. Kmart is has one move, a ferocious dunk. He's got no jumper and he's got the greatest passing pg of this era tossin alley oops. He can't really do anything else. I mean he's great at defense, but seriously, a number one overall pick for a guy who can str8 jam and jam somebody up. He's like a bigger version of Ruben Patterson. It's not even worth talkin about.
     
  5. Fegwu

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    Sheed is a very good player no doubt.

    But I will prefer he stays away from Houston Rockets or Comets.


    For starters he cannot rebound consistently to save his life.
     
  6. Gascon

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    I'll pass on Wallace.

    I prefer to like the players on my team.
     
  7. DavidS

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    Sorry, I couldn't let this one go...

    Ok, let's "think about this...." In the name of "giving credit where credit is due"....

    Define "a bust." And no, we're not talking about a the upper part of the female torso between neck and waist.

    In NBA draft terms, that would mean someone that didn't live up to the expectations of his draft, that being number one. We'll he was the best player available in 2000. Look here: http://espn.go.com/nba/draft00/ Show me someone else that was "worthy" of the 1st pick?

    As far as living up to his potential? Excluding that he was the "best" available in 2000, you do know that this is his 3rd year, right? Most of his rookie season was hampered by a broken leg. Two times actually. So, how can you blame K-Mart that he didn't produce his first year (when Marbury was there) since he was dealing with a broken leg?

    I'm not saying that Kidd doesn't make his teammates better. But to say that you never heard of K-Marts name because he "sucked" it just wrong. He's making a name for himself (playoffs). It just takes exposure.

    Now on to Shawn Marion. I checked his stats. Show me where his stats "slipped?" In fact his numbers have improved steadily since Marbury has been there. And to expand on that point, he wasn't injured when Kidd was there. Yet, he has better numbers over-all during Marbury's tenure. Explain that!

    I will watch NJ next year. Just like I've always done (NBA League Pass). And if they don't make the play-offs, it wont be because K-Mart and Jefferson "suck." It will be because New Jersey lost their best player (if Kidd leaves). Try that with any team and the same will happen.

    And now your last statement..."Parker is no Kidd and they know it..."

    Again. Parker is in his 2nd year and has helped win a championship. I'd say that's pretty good. Next, Kidd is a 11 year veteran. Kidd's strength has always been his passing. His weakness? Shooting. Parker? He's balanced. But his strength more toward shooting. That doesn't mean that he's a bad passer. A 5.3 apg at 2.5 topg isn't that bad. Remember, this is his 2nd year.

    See me in 8 years about Parker.

    Parker: 02-03 .46FG% 5.3APG 2.4TOPG 15.5PPG

    Kidd: 02-03 .41FG% 8.9APG 3.7TOPG 18.7PPG

    Marion: 02-03 .45FG% 9.5RPG 2.2SPG 21.2PPG

    Martin: 02-03 .47FG% 8.3RPG 1.2SPG 16.7PPG (17.9 in Play-offs; a "bust?")

    Marbury: 02-03 .44FG% 8.1APG 3.2TOPG 22.3PPG
     
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  8. alley-oop

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    I'd take Sheed's toughness, fire, good shooting, and up and down rebounding over our present soft, lack of intrest, can't find the hoop, I'll rebound only once and awhile power fowards.

    Plus if we don't like him we don't have to bring him back next year and have good cap space. Rox know our pf spot gave us the worst production. This is even more apparent in the pf dominated west. The roxs main objective should be to improve this spot first!
    Sheed is not the worst choice. We need a playoff tested vet, toughness, passion, high fg%, some rebounding, length for D, someone who doesn't need to be the man but could be, and not too old(Malone). Sheed has these qualities, he just has ? about his temper. Notice last year he calmed down alot and I belive a chang would do even more good for him ala Webber, Spree, and to a lesser degree Horry(Pnx-LA).

    I like this option for it may be more realistic and possible. I would prefer O'neal or Brand but Sheed and cap space is not a bad concolation prize.
     
  9. Kyrodis

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    Yes sydmill....really mature. It's the internet for Christ sake. There's no need to get worked up over people you'll probably never meet. :D

    Kenyon Martin is a decent player, but not a great one. I think he has the potential to be a great player eventually. The problem with him is that he already thinks he's at that level. Look at him on the court. Despite all the talks about his emotional improvement, the guy still has an attitude and ego.

    He's a good defender, and he plays larger than his 6'9" frame.....but saying he's one of the best forwards in the league is just plain wrong.
     
  10. 523744

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    thhe rockets already have a good team chemistry and it would just mess that up with a nutcase like Rasheed Wallace
     
  11. zoork34

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    THANK YOU
    if these people actually watched the playoffs, they would see that kmart actually is a very good player. i might even say his half-court game has been underdeveloped cause the nets run so much. if kidd leaves, he could average 20+ pts a game easy.
     
  12. dookiester

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    "2nd 7
    6. Brand
    7. Malone
    8. Gasol
    9. Sheed
    10. K-Mart
    "11. Walker


    is that Antoine Walker, of the Boston Celtics, with one of the crappiest fg% and 3pt % in the league? in a top anything list? you've got to be kidding.
     
  13. Ming the Dream

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    zoork, Exactly!! Kmart will end up being a 20 and 10 guy.. a far cry from a bust.:rolleyes:
     
  14. tierre_brown

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    K-Mart isn't just all dunks! He has that little scooping hook he did against Duncan. He's definitely not a bust. And as for Sheed, we don't need him influencing EG even more to toke one up...
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    29. L.A. Lakers
    PF, Mark Madsen, Stanford


    MADDOG!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. alley-oop

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    Adding Sheed so called additudewould be no diff. than adding an old grumpy O.T. or Charles Oakley or a hot wire Barkley or Rodman. To get fire on this team we have to take some baggage.

    Name me an intense, or high fire player who doesn't have some personality problems. Even KG and MJ(air) didn't get along with all their teammates. Hell even the rox from last years team all didn't like each other, why do you think KT is gone. Most of the team really doesn't like EG because he seams to lack passion or excitment.

    The Rox need to make a big splash to show the fans, even its not the right direction, that they are tring to make changes to win.

    Sheed would be my third choice over any other major changes besides adding Brand or Oneal. His style of play fits this team well. I think he would actually get along well w/ the rest of the team. Also JVG is the type of coach he would excell under. Best thing is if he doesn't we are not stuck with him like we are stuck with the current roster.
     
  17. tierre_brown

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    Why is Mark Madsen's name even being mentioned in here? He's the equivalent of what Collier would be IF he got off the bench.

    As for Sheed, I'd still be wary about taking him on, although this season he showed he has matured a little more. He didn't get as many technicals and seemed to be capable of being a leader at least some of the time. IF JVG thinks it's a good fit and that he won't explode on the Rox, I'm for it.
     
  18. sonique15

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    i dunno.......that white patch on Sheed's head irritates me.......:D
     
  19. Rocket_Boy_34

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    yeah, I'll second that:D
     

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