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Sharon Says US should Disarm Iran Syria and Libya

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Feb 19, 2003.

  1. Antimav

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    Check your email...
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Isn't that something they do in communist countries?
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    I agree, and the power has to be given to the Palestinian people. If the Palestinian government, or the different extremist groups within Palestine stay in control, they will easily crush the average Palestinian who just wants peace.
     
  4. Antimav

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    The media can just as good of a job...
    [​IMG]
     
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    These all sound like good ideas however I believe step one has been tried for years. For decades Israel has been fighting terrorists in both a military and a law enforcement way. Israel is destroying houses now because normal, law enforcement ways used in the past have proved not to work.

    Also, one problem with a Palestinian state is that while there are probably a ton of Palestinians who would love to live in their own state peacefully and just get on with life, there are also many people who will stop at nothing short of the complete destruction of Israel. Once again, you only get peace when both sides want to see a reasonable outcome and are willing to compromise. The Israeli's showed a willingness to compromise back when Clinton was President but hardline Palestinians wouldn't take the very generous deal offered by Israel.

    Both sides have hard-liners and until that element is removed or controlled you will never get peace. All the good and reasonable ideas in the world won't help unless you have good and reasonable people behind them.
     
  6. MadMax

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    given your emailed identiy, i expect a **** MadMax, any minute now.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, those channels get the highest ratings! Nobody watches other stuff, like Joe Millionaire or the Super Bowl.
     
  8. Antimav

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    You know I don't like Sharon, but I don't even like Arafat either so don't get me wrong. Also, I have grown rather angry at those who use selective vision when viewing the middle east by saying Israel is the good guy the rest are just Arabs... they all are bad guys...
    Mr. Clutch, disregard my comment, your reply to glynch made me rethink that.
     
  9. Antimav

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    It was just a funny image I found at google.com
    who really watches anything other than news networks anyway;)
    Seriously though, the media is a great way to make an idea accepted.
     
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    sound like a ww3 to me, or at he want least a big war in middle east.......
    whos next after this 3? north korea, china, paskistan, india and......:(
     
  11. F.D. Khan

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    Sharon?? The butcher of the refugee camps wants war against Iran, Syria and Libya too??

    Wasn't it Israel's false information that led to the economic embargo and murder of Khaddafi's son?? When now the US believes Israeli info was false.

    C'mon...this guy has INCREASED the settlements significantly and continues to expand Israel on a daily basis. So much for UN resolutions, huh?

    Of course this is the same guy that stated in a cabinet meeting
    " Don't worry about America, we control America"

    I place Sharon in the same light as Saddam and Arafat but MUCH more dangerous because he has one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and has NO qualms about using violence.

    His tactics have increased the misery of Palestinians and his hard-line religious fanaticism has destroyed the economy and the national sentiment in his country. He should be charged with war crimes, not lead a nation. Look at the violence that has erupted since he took power. EVERY Party is worse since his arrival.
    The majority of Israel needs to reign in the religious fanatics and hard-liners just as the PA and the Muslim worlds needs to.

    Islam is the second largest religion in the world, that is a lot of consumers for US goods and services. We need to take a fair approach to forcing a peace otherwise it will hurt our economy more than it already has.
     
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    The Christian Militia in Lebanon was responsible for the slaughter at the Sabra (sp?) camp, but I suspect you already know that.

    Sharon is an elected official who will step down if the Israeli people want new leadership. Sharon respects the freedom of the Israeli citizens, including the Arab Israelis. When you say he is as bad as Saddam, you really lose all credibility because of your gross exaggeration.
     
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    Buddy, I don't mind being insulted if there is some wit involved. Welcome to ignoreland.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, it's not even close. If Sharon was that bad he would launch all out war after Israeli women and children are murdered.
     
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    I'm no fan of Sharon by a long stretch, but this quote is fabricated.
     
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    This quote is often used by American Nazis and other anti-Semitic groups. It is a lie.

    btw, I don't know anything about FD Khan, so I am not calling him a Nazi or an anti-Semite. He did make a mistake though by posting this lie.
     
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  18. F.D. Khan

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    Why don't you make some arguments instead of trying to insult me. You're a fool and are not posting anything of value.

    I will admit that I believe Sharon is DIRECTLY responsible for the death of over 2000 men, women and children by the Christian group. He allowed it to happen which makes him an accomplice.

    I have always felt that Israeli tactics, exponentiated by Sharon, are the reasons for much of the violence. There are extremists on both sides that must be pulled in. To not believe Sharon is an extremist and hard-liner is foolish. And please don't associate my disdain for a political figure as anti-semitism. That is absurd.

    It unnerves me to no end to hear that I am anti-semetic or a nazi if I criticize Israel and its foreign policy. Just as calling for the end to funding for the regime's in Saudi, Egypt and Jordan does not mean I am anti-muslim.

    From a US economic standpoint, the reason for our world dominance is not the government but the capitalistic society that has allowed us to fund our government to buy the best and most sophisticated weaponry. I feel that with our unwavering support of Israel and its treatement of the Palestinians, this is obviously bringing the anger of muslims worldwide and in Europe. This is creating boycott's of american goods and services that will ultimately adversely affect our economy. We need people like Rabin and a true coalition to make the peace there and to have outside groups enforce it. This will not push away the over
    1.3 billion muslims worldwide from using American goods and services.

    I'm VERY surprised if not shocked that the Christian community isn't up in arms about the Palestinian situation as well. A good percentage of Palestinians are Christians and have roots going back to the time of christ.

    As much as it seems to revert to the chicken or egg first scenario over the circle of violence, I feel that in order to better US-MidEast relations, the US must create a peace and not be one-sided on the issue.
     
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    Sharon is an elected official... in a democracy similar to the US before the 13th Amendment. ;)
     
  20. F.D. Khan

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    By the way, an ISRAELI commission declared he was "personally responsible" for the 1,700 deaths.
     

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