Shareef wants out...... should the Rocks take a look.....

Really? The Rockets got exactly what for Rice's expiring contract at the trade deadline? Oh...forgot...it was pre-season... When the smoke cleared and the Hawks had moved both Abdur-Rahim's and Rasheed Wallace's expiring contracts they got.....? Ron Mercer coudn't get off of the Spurs bench last season...and in FEB the Spurs got what for Mercer's expiring $6.7m? The Bucks swapped Ray Allen for Payton's expiring contract. The Bucks signed who with the $?

The huge flaw in your logic is that 99% of teams interested in cap space at the Feb trade deadline stink and have no talent otherwise...they wouldn't be looking for cap space.

Further, let's say we project the 2005-06 cap to be $45m. That means any team with an already committed 2005-06 payroll exceeding $54m has absolutely no interest in a $14m expiring contract because the cap space is equal to or less than MLE $.

And how many teams have > $54m 2005-06 payrolls? DAL, IND, probably the Lakers, MIA, the Knicks, PHI, & SAC. That clearly eliminates 's 7 of 29 potential trade partners. In addition, depending upon whom they sign this summer, MIN, MIL and ORL are very close. That's over 1/3 of the NBA which has no interest in cap space. That number will spike higher after rosters are set for 2004-05.

 

Who does Shareef think he is? Michael Jackson?

 

You have nothing worthwhile to contribute but little sayings do you?

 

Hey, I know some of you don't like the guy...for whatever reason.

But you can't deny that AVERAGING 20 points and 8 boards per game over a CAREER that is now in its 8th (9th?) year is not a fluke....whatever your problem is with SAR, it can't possibly be about his production.

Boozer just signed for $68M coming off a year in which he averaged LESS than SAR has for his entire career while simultaneously managing to miss the playoffs in the pitifully shallow Leastern Conference on the same team with LeBron...how is SAR not at least as good as this guy?

Or how about the suppposed savior of the Pistons, Rasheed Wallace?..This is the guy who was essentially traded for SAR, has lower career #'s across the board, and until this year was viewed as one of the biggest team cancers in basketball...is he better than SAR?

Well then what about Kenyon Freaking Martin, he of the ASTOUNDING 16 PPG career scoring average?..Again, substandard #'s across the board, has never won anything on a team WITH JKidd and RJefferson (2 Olympians), and is being hailed as the guy who is going to put an up-and-coming Denver team in the Finals next year...how is he better than SAR?

In just one post I have given you THREE young PF's with substantially worse production on (for the most part) fellow lottery teams who are making $$$ in the same ballpark as SAR...yet they are seen as messiahs for their new teams, while SAR is barely an upgrade over MoT and Juwan Howard...

Disregard your personal prejudices' and view this objectively for a change...SAR is a great PF who would make a terrific addition to this team...

And even if he doesn't, we can gladly take the $15M in cap relief he will provide us at the end of the year and move on...

Let me ask you this...What is the guarantee that JHoward won't be a huge flop next to Yao?...furthermore, what do we do after next year when he still has another 2 years left on his deal?

 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...62&e=7&u=/ap/20040728/ap_en_mu/people_jackson


HOUSTON - Michael Jackson (news) signed autographs for surprised shoppers as he bought toys and stuffed animals at a Houston mall.


Jackson was in Houston "on business, and just decided to drop by the mall," spokeswoman Raymone K. Bain told The Associated Press Wednesday.


Some who spotted Jackson Tuesday night asked for autographs. The 45-year-old pop star shook hands with those who approached and sampled a pretzel at one shop, Houston TV station KTRK reported.


KTRK said Jackson was in Houston to meet with a lawyer about a music contract issue.


After his shopping spree, mainly for toys and teddy bears, he left town.


See,
I'm too genius and quick for you. I compare Shareef's finesse game to that of Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson is coincidentally visiting Houston.

Maybe it was Shareef looking for teddy bears cause he's crying so much in Portland.

 

Hmm, Boozer was averaging 12rpg last season and he was only in his 2nd year. Ya, Boozer missed the playoffs, but they were also the worst team in the league the year before. SAR has NEVER had a winning season, ever (except for last year w/ Portland).

Never one anything w/ Kidd and RJ? What about 2 trips to the finals? If it wasn't for the Western Powers, they would have won the championship.

I just want to ask you one question. If you truly believe that SAR is better (production wise) that Sheed, KMart, Boozer, others....then why isn't he as popular as these guys. Why isn't he not considered a top tier player? I'll tell you why:

0 winning seasons in his first 7 seasons.

 

this is very stupid! get kirk!

 

SAR sucks! i rather get STROMILE SWIFT! that Boy is cold blooded!

 

PRAISE THE LORD!

GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME!

 

Goooooooooooooooooo ROCKETS!!!!!

 

gucci888 u dont know what u are talking about

 

SAR cost to much we aint gonna be wasting money on him, when we can get Stromile!!! who is cheaper and more athletic and younger

 

When Rahim puts up a few 30 and 20 games like Boozer has done you can say he's better... Besides that why was an 18 year old supposed to lead a team that's pitiful outside of himself and Boozer to the playoffs?

And Rasheed Wallace? Are you kidding me? That guy is WAY better than Rahim, ask his coaches and former team mates if he was ever a team cancer. Besides being equally talented if not more talented on offense, comparing Rasheed's defense to Rahim's is like comparing Jason Kidd's defense to Steve Nash's defense.

Nobody is saying Kenyon Martin is going to take the Nuggets to the Finals, but he to is way better than Rahim, mostly because of his defense.

Worst production on offense, so??? You can't win anything without defense and Rahim gives you none of it, it doesn't matter if he scores 20 when he's giving up 20. Rasheed was on a lottery team? I thought he just won a ring... Martin on a lottery team? I thought he was on a team that just finished winning 3 division titles in a row and has gone to the Finals 2 of the last 3 seasons. He isn't too much better than Howard, what? 3 points and a rebound better, and probably a worse defender, and for that you'll pay him 8 million more than Juwon?

 

I don't think we are going to get him either. But your thinking is along the right lines.

 

Jump,

You have to realize some people on the board here love stats. Basically someone here would say Tony Delk is better than Steve Francis cause Delk scored 50pts in one game.

These are the same people drafting Ricky Williams #1 this year in their fantasy draft.

These are the same people who thought the Astros would be good this year.

These are the same people who think Yao should go out with Pamela Anderson Lee.

These are the same people who made the Ashlee Simpson Album #1 this week.

 

Guc... you always make such great points and I enjoying reading your post. BUT HOW CAN YOU COMPARE PRODUCTION AND POPULARITY. Celine Dion is very popular. Does that mean that she is the best female singer? The Backstreet Boys... kids love them. Does that mean they are the best band around?

Don't use popularity as a measure of production.

 

You are clueless. "When Rahim puts up a few 30 and 20 games like Boozer has done you can say he's better... " You are going to use a couple of single game averages over someones career? Players can't control what team they are on. VAN and ATL both sucked when he was on them. Place Boozer or Wallace or Martin on those teams instead of SAR and do you think the results would have been any different? PLEASE! Don't be stupid.

 

You might have no idea what you are talking about in regards to basketball. But this post was pretty funny.

 

Why don't you use the measure of WINS?

Look at how much of an impact player Shareef is. He isn't one. Let me use an example of an impact player...

SAM CASSELL

Before Sam, TWolves #5 seed, lost in 1st round of the playoffs
After Sam, TWolves #1 seed, lost in Western Conference Finals

Popularity is IMPORTANT. Because Popular Players are usually good players.
Example. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Paul Pierce.. etc

They are popular because they are good and they help their team win. Winning is popular.

LOSING is not popular. That's why Shareef isn't popular. He doesnt help teams win.

NOBODY cared about the TWOLVES until they got Garnett, he's good, they win, he's POPULAR

NOBODY cares if Shareef scores 50pts in garbage time against the Clippers.

 

I guess I used the wrong term. What I'm trying to say is that even though SARs numbers are better than most players, why isn't he considered a top tier player?

There are many reasons why you never hear anything about SAR, there are reasons why some teams would take Kurt Thomas over SAR. His numbers are good, no one can deny that, but its about winning ball games and helping your team out, something SAR has never shown.