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Shane's role will be signficantly diminished in the new season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotblooded, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. A_3PO

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    Based on what we've seen so far, it doesn't get any more efficient that Scola. He has already developed chemistry with Yao that will only improve. Unless he falls off a lot the next couple of weeks, it's a no brainer to start him over Chuck. Because of foul and experience issues, Scola's only going to play 20-30 mins/game to begin with and Chuck will get plenty of time.

    Offense isn't the only reason to start MJ over Rafer. Energy, intensity and defense also favor MJ. You know what I "hate" and what "bothers" me? The way opposing PG's lick their chops when they see Rafer on the other side. You could bring Rafer off the bench to feed the ball to Bonzi and get out of Steve's way.

    Sorry that other opinions bother you but that's the way it is. And what else would you expect people to debate more than the starting lineup? Guessing and opinions are what this forum is all about.
     
  2. thiuronium

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    You may forget what Head looked like, Shane was a much better 3pt shooter than Head in last play off series.
     
  3. HotRocket

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    Since he is basically a better version of Doug Christie, I think it's fair to assume that he will have a similar role, meaning similar playing time.

    Christie averaged about 33 minutes a game in Sac Town.

    I expect about 30 from Shane.

    Actually I kind of expect, and hope, that all of our starters only average about 30-35 mins a game. It will mean that we have a large percentage of blow outs, and players like Brooks and Harris will have a chance to shine.
     
  4. AggNRox

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    dear fans, don't waste your time on this topic. ra has already said yao, tmac, and shane will be in same combination. it means shane will start. :cool:
     
  5. Yetti

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    Rafer is the one guard , who already shows signs that he is going to listen to Coach A and try to do his best to do what is required of him, within the game
    plan. Francis and Mile James are still a project in the process, being converted from selfish to team players, hopefully it will be finalised & accomplished by the end of the season!
     
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    True, I didn't like that either. However I remember the team having problems holding 4th quarter leads (even double-digit ones) in the beginning of the season. Maybe JVG wanted to make sure the lead is totally safe...or maybe he just didn't want to play the end of the bench.
     
  7. hotblooded

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    shane starting and his overall role are two different matters
     
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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=135853

    I guess you were right about him having different role. But methinks 'significantly diminished' is not the change we're going to see. :cool:
     
  9. AggNRox

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    what's your point? do you think yao's role is not going to be changed? :eek:
     
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    diminished is a relative word

    EVERYONE's playing time this year will diminish, quantity wise. However, the effect of this will be that EVERYONE's play will be augmented, quality wise. If you have players on the court for less time, then, logically, they can be more energetic and enthusiastic and capable when on it.
     
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    Agree, with our roster this season we have the luxury to play a 10 man rotation. Our guys energy will be ready to go when called upon off the bench and as the gruelsome 82 marathon season progresses. Our guys won't be worn out. Shane is the heart and soul of our team. Him, Head and Mike James are the ones that strike from the 3pt line. Not to mention Shane's ability to put his body out on the floor and draw a charge
     
  12. KALIKULI

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    Shane can start being the Shane that most of us know during college days in Duke where he put on some great numbers on the offense and that's the kind of game that Rick Adelamn play anyway. As far as his defense he is still a great stopper. Better fit the way i see it!! :)
     
  13. hotblooded

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    Yao's role is obviously going to change, but its not going to get diminished

    I dont get why you dont understand my point
     
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    shane is still our best defender and he will still guard the opposing teams best scorer. he would play less but will contribute more
     
  15. AggNRox

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    interesting. :eek: you mean everything same but shane's role is going to be diminished. what is shane's role? :confused:

    yao will definitely start and shane will start too. yao's role may not be same. shane's role might not be same either or might be not changed at all. so tell me where shane's role is diminished. he is our best perimeter defender. i remember ra had a similar player when he coached kings. do you want me to give his name to you?
     
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    I think maybe all of you are missing the point to a degree when you are talking about minutes each game. If we have a set starting five, possibly it will be as posted with Y, S, B, T & R, (I don't see how Chuck Hayes starts if Scola continues to play like he has....) HOWEVER, the game conditions will warrant a quite varied assortment of lineups, going small, with firepower and defense or going really big with Tmac running the show. Almost anything is possible in a given game depending on conditions. That is what makes this assortment of talent combined with Rick Adelman so interesting.

    I do think Rafer might start, ( I can't believe I just typed that...) because even though it's bad, we know exactly what we will get from him. Get us in our sets quick, low turnovers, occasional 3 and lame defence. Bringing in James, Francis, Bonzi, Chuck and possibly Scola at Center could be an explosive 2nd lineup and may stay on the court for long stretches if they produce, but Bonzi and Steve (maybe even James) can be kinda streaky, so if they aren't scoring, fastbreaking and playing D, the first five comes back in. So we won't always know what our second unit will do, but on some nights, I think they will be unbelievable.

    I suppose I am saying arguing minutes is pointless because I think the opponent and the matchups will dictate who logs the most minutes (also relative health of the players). Also, the minutes may vary alot from game to game other than Yao and Tracy.
     

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