Shane's role will be signficantly diminished in the new season?

I hope that the minutes of many of our players go down... I hope we go play a 9 or 10 man rotation, with our main guys playing no more than 30 minutes. The play offs are a different story of course.

That being said, Adelman ain`t known for a big rotation. I just can`t imagin any of those players (James, Francis, Alston, Wells, Head, McGrady, Battier, Hayes, Scola, Yao, Mutombo) getting basically no minutes at all.

 

i believe shane makes over 5 mill a year. everytime he tries to post up, its embarrassing. his shot is fairly inconsistant. he and jl3 should be traded for someone that can be cut, that will provide cap room. battier sucks. i am sick of the "intangibles" crap. thats code word for a good guy, who does nothing well.

and before you give me the defensive stopper routine, dont. bruce bowen is a stopper, artest is a stopper. when a player locks down another player, and drastically reduces their impact on a game, thats a defensive stopper. shane is a defensive irritant.

 

Didn't Adelman say he was going to diversify Battier's offensive role?

 

Battier shoots a high 3pt percentage because he doesn't shoot alot of 3's. He is NOT better than francis, james, OR bonzi, and head is a better 3pt shooter than shane. head has alot of problems, but he shoots 3s alot better than battier.

 

First of all, who do you want for Shane. A center that will never see or court or a guard that will never see the court. Or maybe we can get a Forward that does things worse than Shane.
Can Scola shoot threes? or defend the best wingman?

 

yes one percentage point better. and shane is a very effective post up player...he is vastly superior to wells francis and head...its not even close. adelman will start him and play him 32 + minutes a game

 

I can't understand how anyone can say Shane isn't better than all those players. Maybe Bonzi has a case, but Battier's defense and hustle wins games. Why do you think we do better with him on the court? Cause his sexiness distracts the other team?

 

shane's role is defense. his role is to guard the best defender. he knows that. he has no problem with that...his role has diminished offensivley, but im sure he'll get a wide open corner three this year

 

Shane's role will be different on offense than last year for sure...his defense and "intangibles" will remain the same...

He, as well as the team, in the 2 preseason games taken far fewer threes. I've seen him in the high/low post a lot more than last year.

Also he has rebounded and brought the ball up himself 4 times so far to start the offense.....thats 4 more times than he did last year.

There is no reason to think his role will be significantly smaller...the way shane plays he'll have a role for any team in this league as a starter. He is that good and smart. His minutes may go down a bit for certain lineups but come crunch time figure Shane to be in there.

 

With Yao, McGrady, Bonzi, James and Francis, you have people that thrive with the ball in their hands.

Therefore you need guys like Scola and Battier to hit the shots, make the passes and do the dirty work.

I think the starting lineup later in the year could be:

Yao/Scola/Battier/McGrady/Francis

Mutombo/ Hayes/ Bonzi/ Luther/ James will be like the wild bench in
sacramento that can play a crazy, offbeat style.

I think one thing Francis/Scola will do is help our rebounding as will a re-trimmed down Bonzi. I still get flashbacks of not securing a rebound in Game 7 against the Jazz.

 

I agree with your analysis for the most part but think that more minutes for Bonzi and Steve can come out of the Rafer/James minutes.

 

Battier and his intangibles, sometimes they are so intangible that one can't even notice them! These intangibles will become significant as we move into the playoffs. During the regular season the Battier role will be greatly diminished in the high scoring fast paced game of Coach A.
I can't see him being a starter!

 

Shane who only needs to do something great is to slow Dirk down when the palyoff is coming. Now it looks like that Scola is more useful for guarding Duncan than Dirk, the Rox really needs Shane to guard Dirk.

 

But Shane is not great at guarding the bigger PowerForwards!!

 

Battier is the guy we put on Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo, etc. McGrady can guard those players but why expend all his energy when we got a more than capable defender in Battier?

Until Wells proves he can carry his pretty good preseason performance into the regular season, Battier's mins/role shouldn't be GREATLY effected

 

That was my thought before, so I always talk about getting J. Foster, but after watching his plays in last two games, I sense that he is a quite strong, but not very quick, so I change my think right now.

 

I think the idea of sacrificing Shane for Bonzi is at least moderately insane.

Shane is a better passer, plays better D, and has a better long distance shot. Bonzi Wells, umm, has a better post up game. Yippee.

 

My bad in another reply, I thought you are talking Scola. Yes, Shane can not guard a PF like Boozer, but Dirk is a soft PF.

 

Shane will have a bigger role than Bonzi for one obvious reason -- he's far, far more durable. We can expect Bonzi to miss 15-20 games (being optimistic), and Shane to play close to a full season.

And when you got scorers like James and Scola, and maybe Francis, added to the mix, Shane's value will increase relative to Bonzi's.

 

With all due respect, this is just stupid. Battier and Scola are two different players. Battier is a 3 that can play some 4, in spots, and can guard big 2's. Scola is a 4/5 and fits Adelman's system perfectly. We'll see far more of Luis at the 5 than most people imagine, in my opinion. I don't see a conflict between the two players at all. Do we have a problem with finding minutes for everyone? Yes. Got too many players under contract, putting the squeeze on someone like Harris, who should make the team? Yes. Do we need to move Battier because of that? Hell no.