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Shams - Philly offered Simmons/Thybulle + draft compensation. Did we make the right deal?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ThatBoyNick, Jan 13, 2021.

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Which package would you have prefered?

Poll closed Jan 18, 2021.
  1. Nets package

    177 vote(s)
    50.4%
  2. Phillys package

    174 vote(s)
    49.6%
  1. ApacheWarrior

    ApacheWarrior Member

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    Could we trade Wall for Kyrie........and then Kyrie retires. Wiping out his salary off the books in the process.

    Do you think Nets will go for it. LoL
     
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  2. D-rock

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    Never hurts to ask.
     
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  3. ApacheWarrior

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    Tilman on the phone as we speak



    Rockets will call his bluff.
    Kyrie/Jevon Carter x Wall works in the trade machine.
     
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  4. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/3088096/202...-for-sources-say-sixers-prefer-a-summer-deal/

    The notion of Morey holding out hope for a Harden reunion should surprise no one who saw them thrive together during those eight seasons together in Houston. It wasn’t just the on-court success that created their bond, though the perennial playoff appearances (including two Western Conference Finals) didn’t hurt. It was the way Morey empowered Harden like never before, hiring a coach in Mike D’Antoni whose system played so wonderfully to his strengths and building the roster around him throughout. And after Morey’s failed attempt to pull it off last summer, when a deal that would have sent Simmons to the Rockets was real enough that the Sixers point guard even started shopping for homes in the Houston area, it makes perfect sense that Morey would want to go down this familiar road again.

    Especially considering the reality that he’s never played with a big man as dynamic and dominant as Embiid.

    The Rockets moved Harden to the Nets a year ago, deciding between offers from Brooklyn and Philadelphia. The 76ers were close to acquiring Harden, proposing Simmons, Matisse Thybulle and two first-round picks.

    With both final offers in hand on the morning of Jan. 13, 2021, sources say Rockets owner Tillman Fertitta approached Harden about which destination he preferred: Brooklyn or Philadelphia. The choice was his – sort of.

    Harden chose Brooklyn, but it remains unclear whether Fertitta would have been willing to follow through on the Sixers deal if Harden had opted for Philadelphia. At the time, sources say, the Rockets also strongly preferred the Nets proposal. The Sixers were unsure at the time if they were truly in the running, as Morey had abruptly resigned from the Rockets less than three months before and landed with the Sixers just two weeks later. They feared the personal dynamics relating to their recent history would play a part in the Rockets’ final choice, though Rockets officials have denied that was the case.

    There was a sense of relief from Fertitta, sources say, that Harden had picked the Nets. It made the deal that much easier and less problematic to complete. Houston finalized the Nets’ blockbuster that included four first-round picks and four draft swaps.

    Yet a year later, sources say Morey still has some optimism that he can finally find a way to bring Harden his way. More specifically, he believes that the nine-time All-Star and 2018 MVP sees the Sixers’ situation in a positive light. And while it may be counterintuitive, Embiid’s MVP-caliber play this season has inspired more patience among Sixers officials to make the right deal than it has pressure to get something done by the deadline.

    As is the case with most potential free agent suitors, there are two primary ways the 76ers can bring in Harden in the offseason: signing him with cap space and negotiating a sign-and-trade with the Nets. However, the 76ers are roughly $20 million over the 2022-23 salary cap with just their fully guaranteed players and filling out the roster, so clearing enough space for Harden would require sending out $61-65 million in salary without taking any back, which is a big undertaking in any offseason, especially this one where so few teams will wield space. That means a sign-and-trade involving Simmons and/or Harris is the practical option, although the Nets would have to agree.
     
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  5. HoustonCRT

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    So we definitely made the right deal then.
     
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  6. xaos

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    Completely agree
     
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  7. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

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    Maybe I missed this before but this is completely new information to me. If true, I guess I owe Tilman some credit in that he actually did Harden a solid by letting him "pick".
     
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  8. hakeem94

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    @DeBeards

    theres a lot more owners in nba than 30...agents and agencies own more nba then owners themselves
     
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  9. steddinotayto

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    At the end of the day I think Tilman knew that Harden wouldn't pick Philly. Before COVID restrictions Harden had a choice of teaming up with Durant and Kyrie.....or Embiid and a bunch of complementary role players. That's a no brainer decision for James.
     
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  10. PatBev

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    Just like Morey, bring in guys who are leaving their prime vs entering
     
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    hahah smart of tilly he gets the credit and sends him where he wants anyway
     
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    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    We've done right by all our departed players.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Does it matter anymore?

    DD
     
  15. Damion Laverne

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    We made the right decision lol
     
  16. ThatBoyNick

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    [​IMG]
     
  17. apollo33

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    Simmons could have sat with Wall on the bench for us like a fashion show
     
  18. Jontro

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    big dikk energy pose right there
     
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    Not according to D-Rock
     
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    Not according 2 D-Rock
     

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