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Shall we trade Yao for Amare if possible?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by win2k, Nov 22, 2004.

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Shall we trade Yao for Amare if possible

Poll closed Nov 25, 2004.
  1. Yes

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    19.4%
  2. No

    463 vote(s)
    76.7%
  3. donnt know

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  1. wireonfire

    wireonfire Member

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    What statement? All I pointed out was Curry didn't seem to have trouble scoring against the redhot Amare. I was interested because Curry, however underachieving, is one of the few prototype centers in the league.

    I am waiting to see how Yao fares against Amare. Last season Yao had the upper hand, I think.
     
  2. franchise23

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    lets just see what happens the rest of this season and in the playoffs.

    If Amare can develop a good post game i think he will be in the same class as KG and Duncan. However, once Yao stops picking up stupid fouls and improves his stamina just a bit then i think he too will be in that class. they both have great potential since they are both under 25.

    one thing that does worry me about yao is that tall big men (like rick smits and even shaq) start to break down when they get into their 30s. i am not saying that will happen to yao since he has been very healthy in his career so far but it is still a concern of mine.
     
  3. joolut

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    First of all, let's forget this garbage about Amare only improving b/c of Nash, he has shown steady improvement in his career even before Nash. From this point on, he will only continue to get better. Besides, many thought that Dirk's averages would go down after Nash left, but what happened? He is up to like 25.8 from 21.8. PG effects on players are very overrated, Kenyon doesn't seem to have missed much w/o Kidd, and many predicted the same thing would happen to him.

    Second, this is a legitimate question, and I don't think I could answer it right now. Each player has many things that the other doesn't. If it came down to it, you still have to go w/ Yao because, as has been said over and over, he is one of only a few players in the league who gets doubled almost EVERY time he gets the ball, even before he gets it. His defense, obviously, speaks for itself. Tough one, but way too early to tell.

    As far "ceilings" go, who knows and who cares? Eddy Curry, Tyson, Kwame, ?Eddie Griffin, all these guys were felt to have high "ceilings" and we know what happened with those guys so far.
     
  4. joolut

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    PS Why are you referring to Amare as "undersized" when he is bigger than Boozer? If it is b/c he is technically listed as a "C," you can forget that. Everyone knows he is a PF. He is only listed as a "C," b/c they have no real center good enough to start.
     
  5. franchise23

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    agree with most of what you said except the part about K-mart. if you look at his stats so far both his points and rebounds are down from last year. i think that can be attributed to Kidd not being there next to him on fast breaks.
     
  6. joolut

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    True, I didn't see his stats from this year, it just seemed like he was putting up big numbers. Still early though, I have a feeling he will be close to last year's averages by year's end.
     
  7. HoustonForever

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    Shall we trade T-Mac for Kobe? No.

    Shall we trade Yao for Amare? No.
     
  8. HoustonForever

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    Shall we trade T-Mac for Kobe? No.

    Shall we trade T-Mac for Artest? No.

    Shall we trade Yao for Webber? No.

    Shall we trade Yao for Amare? No!
     
  9. Wolfhound

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    There are four or five PF's better than Amare Right now in the league. He may be one of the best in the league 3-4 yrs but that being said Yao is the best center in the West and you do not trade a All Star Center for a young PF
     
  10. lost_elephant

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    i agree with the 2nd portion. i think dirks numbers are a bit skewed.

    2 years ago, this guy was getting 25 ppg.

    his numbers last year dropped last year because not only was he sharing the ball with nash and finley, he was also sharing it with antwan jamison and antoine walker.

    this year, hes getting 25 ppg again....without walker, without jamison, without nash.

    without those 3 guys, thats an absence of 45 points that needs to be made up.
     
  11. jlwee

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    Amare + Nash = Kemp + Payton = Malone + Stockton = NO RING!
    Yao + T-mac = Shaq + Kobe = Kareem + Magic = Dream + Drexler = CHAMPIONSHIP. At least this what we hope for...
     
  12. vincejas

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    But i would trade yao, lue and mo for boozer and ak47 and arroyo
     
  13. joolut

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    I'll agree that, to this point, the replacements have not been scoring as much as the old guys, but I won't concede that Dirk's scoring is up solely to compensate for the the other guys being gone. The reason is b/c if you look at his stats this year and last, both his minutes and field goal attempts are down from last year. His scoring has gone up mainly b/c his shooting average and free throw attempts have gone up.

    It's still early, his averages may drop, but to this point, he has become a more efficient scorer-without Nash.
     
  14. RocketForever

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    How is it going to work capwise?
     
  15. joolut

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    Well, if he continues to do what he is doing, Amare will be an All-Star this year, so the question would not concern trading an All Star Center and a "young PF," but would be an All Star Center and an All Star PF.
     
  16. clove

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    You would be lynched by Houston fans.

    You'll at least end up in Morman heaven though.
     
  17. vwiggin

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    Even if Amare is more talented than Yao, that still doesn't change these three facts:

    1. The NBA has lots of great power forwards, but only 2-3 legitimate centers.

    2. Playoff games are won by halfcourt defense. There's a reason why the Mavs (god love'em) will never win a championship.

    3. Yao will attract more free agents than Amre (see Shaq).
     
  18. spacepimp

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    yeah cuz all the free agents came to houston in the past three off seasons.
     
  19. daRox

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    Couldn't say it any better!
     
  20. Wala

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    no, Amare is a 4 while Yao is a 5 and likely be a starter again in the all-star. We just need a PG and we be in the final and maybe , maybe a new coach.
     

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