Posey is not traded in this scenario. We decide later if we want to keep Posey or trade him or just let him walk. I would have a hard time just letting him walk though since we gave up KT and a number 2 for him.
I don't think Steerling will trade any of his players for high priced players or players coming up on a big contract. Another nice part about my deal is that he gets Cato, who is still locked up for the next several years, and Griffin who still has two years bevore Sterling has to worry about any type of negotiations. Cato is probably the absolute best Sterling could get to replace Kandi. And at Cato's price Sterling would have to love the deal. Griffin gives him a chance at someone he can market as an up and coming superstar in this league with out the high salery. Throw in a conditional draft pick and I don't see how Sterling could not consider a deal like that before just letting his players walk for nothing.
Now that lineup would truly be awesome. I'd rather have Miller over Odom because there's part of me that feels Stevie should be a 2. And we get Piatkowski . Of course, any of these deals mean 4 players with max contracts (3 of whom would begin next year). I'm gonna go with 4 and trade Griff to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas and a 2004 first rounder. Get a guy who watches Yao's back, can guard centers, rebounds, underrated scorer, and cheap.
Here is another possible trade with the little Clippers: Houston trades: Kelvin Cato Eddie Griffin LAL trades: Elton Brand Eric Piatkowski In this trade LAL gets to keep Odom. We still get Brand which solves one of their off season problems signing problems and also gives them some very real value. There are plenty of teams that would love to acquire Kandi and with LAL receiving Cato they now have the flexibility to trade him to the highest bidder. Piatkowski would be a very nice back up to bring some shooting touch off of the bench to shoot over the zones. Our line-up: Yao Ming Elton Brand James Posey Cuttino Mobley Steve Francis BTW this limits the number of max deals everyone seems to be worried about and we only need to deal with Posey and Brand this off-season. One Max contract and one Cat type of contract.
I would do the trade. But what about Elton Brand's huge contract? It would be better to pay him than Cato. The Clippers owner would never accept. Instead of trading Nachbar, we should trade Morris and Norris.
I don't think anybody would want to take Norris on their team. I would do what crash5179 suggested in his 2nd potential trade and it seems almost plausible too.
Piatkowski would be a very good addition. We need somebody who can consistently shoot. I would get Elton Brand for Eddie Griffin. That would be perfect for our team, but their owner would not do that. I'll be crazy if I hear this on the news.
fatman510, So you think Cato backing up Yao Ming is more valuable than Elton Brand playing besides him because you don’t like Collier as a back up? I seriously question your reasoning. LiTtLeY1521 What about Elton Brand’s contract? It’s not huge right now since he is still on his first contract. Are you worried about Brand commanding a max contract and hurting Les Alexander’s pocket book in the off-season? I’m not. And the reason Steerling makes the deal is because he does not want to pay max contracts. That is the reason that Kandi is leaving and probably the reason that Miller, Odom and Brand are all leaving as well. If Steerling decides he is willing to pay Brand what he is worth then there is obviously no deal, but this whole scenario is predicated one simple fact…Steerling will give up Brand before giving him a max contract. Who can offer better value than Cato, Griffin and maybe a conditional draft pick for Brand? JayZ750, The deal works on RealGM so I guess the whole thing depends on if Steerling is going to keep the team together or sale them off one player at a time. If he does not intend on resigning Brand where could he find a better deal with salery cap figures that works? The more I think about it the more it makes since.
Francis and Cat in the same backcourt just don’t compliment each other well. Francis insists on playing PG so let’s bring in a SG with skills that combined with his, will make us a more well rounded team. A player with some passing skills that doesn’t need to score a lot, but can when called upon. IMO Brent Barry fits that mold to a tee. That and the fact that there are many viable trade scenarios that work within the Collective Bargaining Agreement, is why I like a trade with Seattle. Here’s just a few. Houston trades: SG Cuttino Mobley Houston receives: SG Brent Barry TRADE ACCEPTED Houston trades: SG Cuttino Mobley C Kelvin Cato Houston receives: C Vitaly Potapenko SG Brent Barry TRADE ACCEPTED Houston trades: PG Moochie Norris SG Cuttino Mobley C Kelvin Cato Houston receives: C Pedrag Drobnjak SG Brent Barry PG Kenny Anderson TRADE ACCEPTED Houston trades: SG Cuttino Mobley PF Maurice Taylor PG Moochie Norris Houston receives: PG Kenny Anderson SG Brent Barry PF Vladimir Radmanovic TRADE ACCEPTED
I certainly wouldn't put it pass Sterling IF Cato's deal was a year shorter or for a little less. I don't know if Sterling will see more benefit, though, from acquiring Cato, than simply letting players walk and playing cheap young talent. AS far as Andre Miller goes, I don't personally think he would be that much of an addition. Watching Clippers games this year I've come away completely unimpressed with Miller's play. Wasn't he suppossed to help bring the Clippers to the next level? Instead they completely fall apart. Brand and Piatowski work for me because they are blue collar type players.
I like the 2nd trade that you proposed. Kenny Anderson and Brent Barry would be great. We need a shooter like Barry or Piatkowski. The only thing is...Seattle waived Moochie before we signed him. They wouldn't want him now. Although it's a new coach. Kenny Anderson wants more playing time. Will he get it in Houston? And...what if Gary Payton leaves? They would lose their starting backcourt. Michael Finley is being traded...they want more of an inside presence. ?
The more I watched Rockets games, the more I am convinced that we won't make too much progress. We don't have the right combination of players to have a solid and consistent basketball play style. I'm thinking only two possible solutions for Rockets: 1. Trade Yao Ming for a PF package. Rockets become a run and gun team. 2. Trade or package Mobley for a PG or PG package. Why Option No 1: Rockets play has always primarily been ISOs and guards-oriented. Yao is not utilized and the offense does not go inside-outside. Both guards are too boneheaded to make any change in the way they play. Rockets does not need Yao to have a decent defense and rebounding. Cato will be enough. Case: Yao missed two in a row, guards stop feeding him the ball. Today after Lakers game, I saw Shaq made only 3-12 in the first half, team mates still keep feeding him the ball in the low post. Why Option No 2: Has been discussed in great length. Rockets need a true PG and Steve moves to SG. Yao should have more chances to shoot the ball with the help of a good PG. Rockets must take one of the two options above. I guarantee one thing: Firing Rudy won't make any difference if one of the above is not taken. Now which one do you want?
Ack, I'm not so good with the hypos. But here's one I've been bandying about: Hudson/Garnett for Francis/Griffin/Rice Not terribly original and I don't know if the salaries match or what we would need to throw in but I think this helps us on several levels. First our new lineup: C Ming/Cato PF Garnett/MoT SF Posey/TMo SG Mobley/Hawkins PG Hudson/Norris First off, I don't think a trade is the answer. I think these guys will come around. But should Les feel the need to shake things up, I think this is the best of plausible deals. Minnesota takes Garnett off the books and acquires a great scoring guard and a quality big guy. For the Rockets, well, as far as I can tell, Mobley and Francis have duplicate game (well, you know what I mean, Francis is better but...anyways). We trade the more tradeable of the to and allow the other to assume full authority over backcourt offensive duties. Hudson comes in as the distrubitor. Garnett not only gives us much needed front court muscle, but much needed front court fire. We become better defenders and rebounders with this deal, and I wouldn't be suprised if our offense actually improved as well.
Trade Mobley. His decision making is horrible. We have no offense generally when he's going. The team needs to give him an ultimatum - either distribute the ball or you are gone.
