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SF Chron: Warriors a possible trade partner?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, May 23, 2010.

  1. Garner

    Garner Member

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    Not that high.
    No, just no.
     
  2. pippendagimp

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    I'm not all that enamored with the players in this draft, i definitely don't want to take on any of the Warriors' headcase players, and i'm reluctant to part with Hill even to get Bosh much less an Anthony Randolph w/ rocks in his head. Stay away from the biggety biggety bay.
     
  3. Garner

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    This is probably one of the best, if not the best class since 2003, what is not to be enamored with?
     
  4. ArtV

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    I'd do that. I personally like Maggette. Yes he's overpaid but it's only 2 million over what Battier is making and I think he brings that and more to the table. He's a great #2-3 option. Plus add to that list the #6 pick and you have a pretty decent team (50+ wins). I don't know if that is enough to win it all though - still missing a Batman/Robin combo. But with all the #1 picks, expiring contracts and young prospects (Hill and Buddinger), I think Morey has enough treasure in the chest to go after a super star. I really don't think Bosh, Wade, Lebron, etc are interested in Houston so he'd have to go shopping for a non-FA superstar. I don't know if it would get it done but I'd trade:

    Brooks,
    Jeffries,
    Buddinger,
    Andersen,
    #6 (assuming the trade above goes down),
    #1 2011,
    #1 2012 Knicks pick (we keep ours since we can't trade 2 in a row)

    for

    Chris Paul.

    That give the Hornets a chance to start over because they aren't going anywhere with their current roster. 3 - good #1 picks + Brooks + Buddinger + expirings which they can use as backups this year.

    Then split the MLE on Brad Miller and a wing.

    That would give us:

    Yao / Miller / Hayes
    Scola / Hill
    Maggette / Ariza
    Martin / part MLE wing (or LLE)
    Paul / Lowry
     
  5. leebigez

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    First off, I agree with DD about player development. Why get randolph who is a development player himself or monroe who is the same and get rid of hill? This screams of desperation and no clear cut plan. U have to think of your team in cycles.For the rox, this cycle is over and was with the artest defection. They need to start over.

    What does that mean? Brooks,hill,ariza,chase,martin,the draft pick, and lowry as the core. My only exception is scola because he plays every game and is productive. Yao,jeffries,battier,hayes all have 0 upside and no future with the team. They need to start the clock over and get into the cycle with portland,ok city,and i guess u can throw memphis in there in the west. Maybe in 3 yrs la,phoenix,and the rest of the older teams will be thru. As of now, its over and the quicker the organization comes to the conclusion, the faster we can move forward.
     
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  6. pippendagimp

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    based on?
     
  7. Rocketman81

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    Why dont we trade Yao, Martin and Brooks for Maggette, Biedrins and Turiaf while we're at it :rolleyes:
    This is a horrible trade proposal. Its like trading a Chris Bosh for a Stromile Swift and then throwing lottery picks on top of it. If I were Golden States GM, I would jump on that deal in a heart beat.
     
  8. Egghead

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    I think the trade is pretty fair...
     
  9. withmustard

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    what do you think pritchard could come up with?
     
  10. rocketblaze

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    The amount of talented prospect available throughout the lottery and the rest of the 1st round....

    For example Craig Brackins was considered a Lottery pick back in 2008 had he come out, but opted to stay in school, now that his coming out his projected as a late 1st early 2nd rd pick... which is mostly due to the fact of "high ceiling" prospect available in the 1st round...

    --RB
     
  11. T-Slack

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    Are you serous?
     
  12. tierre_brown

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    Or it could be the fact that there was potential until they saw Brackins wasn't really progressing as a high lottery player should...

    Although I am intrigued by Randolph's potential, I'd much rather see Jordan Hill stay on the Rockets. If we take on a poison pill contract, the #6 really isn't all that enticing unless a stud falls into our laps. Due diligence on Morey's part, and if things pan out, we might see a trade, but I don't really think that it's at the top of DM the GM's priority list.

    Oh, and Asidd...think about matching cap numbers before saying that you should give nothing more or less...
     
  13. T-Slack

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    I seems for the last couple of summers, there is always rumors about a possible trade with the Warriors. If the Warriors do make a trade for the 6th pick, I have a feeling they'll do the same thing they did last year were if a guy slips to them then they'll keep their pick. I'll doubt they'll pass on Cousins if he somehow slips to them do to attitude concerns. Had the T-wolves drafted Curry instead of Flynn, Stoudemire would of been traded to the Warriors.
     
  14. Francis3422

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    The attractive part of #6 for me is Greg Monroe would probably be there.

    Monroe would make Randolph pointless. I do like Biedrins ok.

    I think we could get #6 and Biedrins for pretty cheap.

    Maybe#14+Hill+2012 first rounder.

    Yao/Biedrins/Hayes
    Scola/Monroe/Hayes
    Ariza/Battier
    Martin
    Brooks

    The only drawback is that it is more of a future oriented move as it may take Monroe a year or so. Its not a win-now like Bosh.
     
  15. T-Slack

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    Pistons are also looking to trade for Cousins. Link I dunno if they have enough parts to make it happen unless they make their pick for next year available.
     
  16. meh

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    Well, Budinger was even once considered a lottery pick, so that's not really a big deal.

    I don't know whether this draft is deep or not. But I do know that at #14, the Rockets seem to miss out on the top level prospects. So from that standpoint, trading up is pretty much the only way to go.

    As for trading for a low 1st rounder, they generally cost too much for Morey's taste. I have a feeling we're still going to buy some 2nd rounders from teams in financial crunches. At that point in the draft, depth is less important as it is scouting. So I think Morey can find contributors in any year.
     
  17. agentkirb87

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    If we can make it into the early part of the lottery (top 7), then thats great. But if we can't make a move, I don't know if that's not necessarily a bad thing either. We're not going to nab one of the top 3 spots and get a sure thing. It's just not going to happen. But All-star caliber players drop to the #14th pick all the time.

    Now, it's rare for a hall of famer to drop that low, but I think we have a good shot at getting a quality player at #14. Morey's strength seems to be player evaluation, if anyone could nab a solid player at #14, he can. I wouldn't get too caught up in the statistics of "well X percent of the time a low lotto pick pans out" because a lot of these teams are trying to strike gold, I think if we came away with a top 8 rotation player (a guy worth the MLE at least), we could call this a successful draft.
     
  18. BasketballReasons

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    The draft is freakishly deep. And to be honest if we can't trade up the most intelligent thing would be to trade down.

    Try and get two firsts like the 16 & 20ish from Minny. We'd have to add something though.

    What I mean is that from 12 to 18 the talent level IMO is the same..
     
  19. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    A lot of drafts have Wes Johnson falling to 6 with the Kings taking Aminu.

    Either way, I'm pretty sure this is "Plan B" if there is no hope in a Chris Bosh deal getting done.

    I'm pretty intrigued by both Aminu and Johnson's athleticism and size which I'm sure Morey sees as well. They'd look pretty good in Rockets red.

    http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/

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  20. thumbs

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    Egghead, again, we only own one Knicks pick (their first in 2012). The other trade commodity from the Knicks is the option to swap Number 1 positions IF they have a worse record than we do in 2011.
     

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