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Seth Davis says Lebron is a lame front runner

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by GreatOne1978, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. thewaterox

    thewaterox Member

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    I don't buy that he doesn't even know who his father line. I mean come on Delonte West played with him with the Cavs. I'm sure they had a few talks about the birds and the bees. :grin:
     
  2. Pieman2005

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    I hate bandwaggoners.
     
  3. Steve_Francis_rules

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    If he's such a bandwagon front runner, why he is a fan of a football team that has only one like one playoff game in the last fifteen years?
     
  4. BetterThanI

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    Then they are bandwagonners. They should have been cheering for the hometown team, the team that WAS on tv almost every week (this bunk about networks only showing winning teams is untrue. I grew up in Houston, and the Oilers were on almost every week). You don't just cheer for winners. If you do, that makes you a bandwagonner. You don't just cheer for the media darlings. If you do, that makes you a bandwagonner.

    So, to answer the question that was asked: yes, if you're from Houston, you should be cheering for Houston.

    "But my family is from Dallas." You're not: stop rooting for the enemy.

    "But we've always cheered for Dallas." Then you've always been bandwagonners. Cut it out.

    "But I don't like cheering for teams that aren't currently winning." Tough. Suck it up and be a real fan. Real fans take the bad with the good.

    Remember how many Yankee caps you saw back in the early 80s through the mid-90s? Almost none. Why? Because the Yankees sucked. Same thing with the Cowboys. In the years leading up to the Aikman era, blue stars weren't seen all that much. Only after they started winning did these "fans" come out of the woodwork.

    Sadly, I even saw some of this in the Austin area when the Astros made the World Series. All of the sudden, the Rangers gear disappeared and everyone had a Biggio jersey. As someone who has been an Astro fan for life, sat in the stands an watched César Cedeño and Jose Cruz, Billy Doran and Mike Scott, Jose Lima and, yes, Craig Biggio, it sickened me to see these people jump on the bandwagon.
     
  5. pips

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    You do realize the Texans are one of the youngest football franchises in the NFL and has had consistent improvements through the seasons and are already ready for the next step to be a playoff team. While the cowboys have been around forever and in recent years choked every opportunity they had at a run for the championship. I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans have more success than the Cowboys this season and if they do please stay a Cowboys fan.
     
  6. Steve_Francis_rules

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    It doesn't make you a bandwagonner if that's the team you chose when you were a kid and you stuck by them after they stopped winning and ceased to be the media darlings.

    So I'm a bandwaggoner because I'm not from Houston and I'm a Rockets fan? That's stupid. The Rockets have been a mediocre franchise for more than a decade. I've stuck with them throughout many crappy years. I'm no bandwaggoner.

    Here I agree with you.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    i disagree wholeheartedly. you do NOT have to cheer for your hometeam. that's absurd to assume if you grew up from there that you have to cheer for them (even if you see them on TV every day). a reason for you to like a team could be variable. i grew up in LA but i never liked the lakers or dodgers despite them always being at least fairly successful. sometimes you just can't describe it.

    i started liking the rockets b/c i watched my first NBA in the playoffs and i saw hakeem. i never cared for the rockets but hakeem was my first favorite player so i just continue to follow the rockets b/c of hakeem. and now i like them. i don't think that made me a bandwagon fan. the rockets have been mediocre since then and i still follow them.

    and to your point, the yankees were NOT successful in the 80s or early 90s. lebron grew up watching them then.

    the cowboys were successful in the early 90s but they have been mediocre since.

    i think it's fine to like a team if it's successful if it's your FIRST favorite team ever. but if you stay loyal to them even when they struggle, that's not a bandwagoner. i think that's the case with lebron.

    a bandwagon fan is a fan who jumps through different teams depending on their success. for instance, people who liked the cowboys in early 90s then now liking the colts or patriots and don't even care for the cowboys.

    a bandwagon fan is someone who cheers for a team and can't even name the 11th player on a basketball team.
     
  8. david_rocket

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    If Lebron roots for the Yankees and cowboys since his childhood is ok, he is not a bandwagoner.

    Here in Mexico in the 70s, they only showed the steelers and the cowboys, so thats why a lot of people here root for those teams, when they dont have any connection at all with pittsburgh or dallas.
     
  9. napalm06

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    Pretty weird statements, dude. What happened to the pride of being where you're from? That's part of the fundamental basis of sports pride..

    Even if I picked a random team to hop onto and spent years bonding with the fans and team history (and I have, in the NHL for example) it's still missing the hometown ingredient - the one that makes it the sweetest when the team finally has some success.
     
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    In response to Lebron's tweet about the Cowboys end of first half play:


    http://twitter.com/chaddukes/status/24339659527
     
  11. goodbug

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    Can't agree more, I've never seen you cheered for Heat before this season. And you certainly do not sound like a Cavs fan any longer.

     
  12. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I think your "hometown pride" argument would mean more if the players on the team were actually from the town where they play, or if they stayed there a long time. How many current Rockets are from Houston? How many of them have lived in Houston for more than four years? Not many. So if the Rockets win the championship, why would hometown pride be a part of it?

    Also, what if your hometown just sucks? Not just the sports teams, but the city itself.
     
  13. htownrox1

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    Bandwagon fans need to be beaten sensless!! Man, it sickens me.
     
  14. t_mac1

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    there's a thing called cheering for "players." the only team i cheer for is the rockets. i could care less for the heat. but i love seeing superstars do well, not just lebron james. just happens he's the best player in the L and i like seeing the best player in the L do well (the same way i wanted kobe a few years ago to go deep by his lonesome pre-gasol).

    bandwagoners JUMP on TEAMS. guess u didn't know that either. not surprising.
     

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