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Sestak for Senate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, May 5, 2009.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    One big problem with a sleestak in the Senate is their inherent slowness. Poor thing would only even make it to his seat if there was a filibuster in progress. That might be balanced by short, pithhhhhhhhy speeches though.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    Whoa! You mean you're supporting Toomey or you think he can win? You must mean you're supporting him because he has about as much chance of winning the state as Keyes had of beating Obama.

    If you want to slow the progressive majority, your guy is Tom Ridge.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    It's evident from the context that it's not really a serious contention and more of a sarcastic one.

    Just like it's evident from the context that he really does not have inside information on Bob Dole's sexual performance as a young man.

    Not dissimilar to when it was evident from the context that Barack Obama did not believe there were 57 states in the union.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    exactly, you're so right, its the left equivalent of wingnuttiness. its the exact same playbook.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Sounds perfect for the Senate.
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    Oh, no. You're getting worse.

    I guess now you're saying that if he told one joke in the interview, it is "evident" that everything he said in the interview was a joke (and if anyone doesn't agree, they're Glen Beck). That's some pretty squishy legal work on your part, Sam. I won't even bother with the add-on that if anyone ever made a mistake (57 states) it further proves that all answers to NYT mag interviews are jokes (and if you don't think so you're a humorless dork). That's pretty sorry work there.

    But since I couldn't care less about this argument, I'll try and leave it there.

    You can decide if proving an unprovable thing, which you spent the first page of this thread saying had already been proven (and why don't you dumbasses get it!!! :mad: ) is worth continuing.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    ^ yeah it's me who's getting all heated up about this.*


    *note that response was sarcastic
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    Okay, cool.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    if you can't agree if its a mistake or joke, can we agree on one thing, dude may just be getting too old
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    Apparently my internet voice is hard to read. I haven't gotten heated up about anything on this board since the primaries. We speak different dialects of snark online, Sam. It doesn't mean I'm humorless or heated. I've been smiling (in real life!) every single time I've responded to you. It's not anger that drives me to make fun of people on the internet, it's fun.
     
  11. weslinder

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    I'm predicting. Toomey over Specter for Pennsylvania Senate in 2010.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Yes, because I am so challenged in this way. Thank goodness I have you around to set me straight.

    You are pretty smart, Sam. And you are pretty funny. But that is no more evidence that everyone else is dumb and humorless as your flawed suggestion that one Viagra joke=all jokes.
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    Wow. Wanna make it interesting? (No bans; I like having you around.)
     
  14. juicystream

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    Do you think Ridge won't run, or Toomey takes it in the primary?

    Assuming Specter does win the demrocratic nomination, and Ridge declines to run, you have a very good chance of being right.
     
  15. weslinder

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    Sig bet or something? Sure. It's a long way off. I'll have to be reminded.

    I'm assuming that Ridge doesn't run. If Ridge does run, he beats all comers.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    Toomey only makes it through the primary if Ridge doesn't run.

    Ridge not running is also Specter's best hope of getting the Dem nomination.

    I don't know if Ridge will run, but if he does he will become the favorite in the primary and the general. I don't think Specter could beat him, but I think Sestak or another Dem could give him a race.

    Toomey has no chance in the general in any scenario.
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    ^Let me amend that a little. I wouldn't put it past the small group of R's that are left in PA to boost Toomey over Ridge, though I think it's highly unlikely. But the general? No way.
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    Let's make it a tip jar thing. You can set the amount.

    Okay. I think you're probably right, but by a hair in the general. Against Specter, yes. Against Sestak, remains to be seen. Ridge is very popular in PA but so is Obama and there are a lot more D's than R's in PA. It would come down to independents and whether or not a Sestak could steer the debate away from personality and toward agenda. If so, he could make it a good race.

    Toomey, in a general, gets all Republicans and all R-leaning anti-Specter/Sestaks. And that's all. I think it's generous to give him a 45% ceiling.
     
  19. juicystream

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    I say Toomey beats Specter if those 2 are the candidates. Sestak beats Toomey. Ridge beats Specter easily, and would be a heavy favorite against Sestak. I think Specter is done, though I guess there is always name recognition and incumbent advantage.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    First, I don't agree that Specter's done. Right now I think everything depends on how well Specter's conversion to his new party takes. Remember, Specter was more popular among PA Dems than he was among R's, so he has the makings of a winning coalition if he can hang on to the D's.

    I think Ridge is also waiting to see how this goes. If Specter looks like a solid D nominee (unchallenged and enthusiastically supported by the party) in a couple weeks, Ridge might not go. And if Specter falls hard with the party, inviting an energetic Sestak challenge, Ridge also might not go.

    I don't think Ridge wants a tough race in a state where he's so popular. Losing would be a drag for him there and the climate is very bad in PA for Republicans, however popular.

    Something less than a D party united behind one candidate or another and Ridge will smell a clean path to the Senate. Of course, he still has to decide if that's where he wants to be.

    At any rate, it's shaping up to be the most interesting race of 2010.
     

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