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Seriously, Rockets can consider to get Bateer as a PF

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowmt, Dec 20, 2002.

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  1. Shrimpie

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    No, Codell. I, for one, didn't expect Yao Ming to achieve so much success so soon. Why? Because I based my expetation on the performance of Wang in NBA and their head-to-head competition back in China.

    There must be something that Rockets/Rudy has done right in developing Yao Ming. Somehow I believe given the right system and organization, at least Da Zhi can do a much better job.

    Rudy for president/Bill Walton for vice-president

    Shrimpie
     
  2. njsun

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    Beteer is good buck up center, but will be liabilty to play PF.

    I have followed Bateer's game last season. He has good skills and very strong. <B> He beat Yao Ming in getting MVP at last year's CBA All-Star Game. </B> He was one player in Nuggets team got a lot of fans excited since made 98 out 100 free shots during the pre-season. He has good range can even hit 3 point. Good post game, also shown last summer at Indy World Game. Good pass for a center, even wowed by Nuggets fans. He joined the Denver only in Feb. Among last 24 games, he only started 11 games.


    As a product of Chinese basketball system (as Yao), I have no question about his fundamentals. But in NBA his speed will be a major disadvantage to play PF. Also his adapting of new NBA rule (from internation FIBA rule) has been quite slow, resulting a lot of fauls quickly.

    So my observation is he can be a decent backup at center position, but PF.
     
  3. zenkle

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    Sorry, I can't agree. In China, Bateer successfully schooled Yao Ming for many many times. And in the Basketball Word Champion, he scored 19 points in the game VS American Dream 5 and topped the whole Chinese Basketball Team. (Which just happened in this summer)

    Yao ever said: every matchup with Bateer in Chinese Basketball Association is the hardest time for him.

    Bateer is probably the second strongest player in NBA. He can rebound and do any dirty jobs. If possible, why not give him a try?
     
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    Don't ever remember Walton went WOW when he saw Wang back in the Olympics. A 20 Year old Wang dominated a 17 year old Yao means nothng.

    However, I do believe Wang was in the wrong system, and he might be able to do much more than he shows.

    Remember, it takes more than skills or talent to be successful. IT takes heart!!!!!
     
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    Bateer's biggest problem is taht he is not agile enough. He won't be as successful in a NBA fast pace game.
     
  6. qiu777

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    my friends, I'm no doubt a Chinese, so what I want to ask is that have you ever been watching bateer playing a complete game,if not, then please do not give your subjective comments immediately,since this may ruin your fame,and this will , eventually one day,force you to eat your own words. I know bateer well. I watched him play for almost 5 years. Cato is good but please do not compare him to bateer, because this is a big insultant for bateer,(I'm not intending to annoy sb, and I like cato very much),bateer shoots well, at least as same as yao. Have you remembered this summer when yao was drafted as the first overall pick,what comments did those so-called specialist post on yao, "he was just a bust",nobody said this frankly,but this was indirectly translated into several other sentences. Till now, I'm not surprised what goal has yao achieved, since I kown yao well.
    he has such ability. And what he need is help ,trust and encouragement from coach, audience,teammates, and he got all of that. So even today, the first thing I want to do everytime I come to clutch is that to show my grateful feelings to you friendly huston fans. You help him at the moment when all the other people do harsh thing on him,and finally yao comes to success,and you are the only men should get the good wishes. So the only thing I want to tell you is that the same thing will happen on bateer, although it will take a little bit longer time since he just not the first pick and do not have enough time to show his ability. But if you give him some trust and time, he will return you big joyful feelings. :)
     
  7. basketball

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    I was impressed with Bateer at the World games. He is not as quick as some of the power forward but he is strong with good shooting from the outside. One thing that the Rocket might want to look at is an enforcer at the 4. Someone that will make the opposition think twice before they go in the paint. Yao is intimidating with his size and block shot but an rough tough PF would compliment Yao nicely. Someone that would make the other team inside player think twice before they play rough against Yao. I am not suggesting a dirty player but a tough player who play the game right but with a mean demeanor. When teams couldn't defend Yao there will be some players that will play dirty against Yao trying to intimidate him. Bateer would certainly strong enough and if he can develop a mean demeanor then he would fit nicely with Houston.
     
  8. YaoROY

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    We won't be able to get him, but we should try to give him an offer sheet. That way the Spurs would've to match it and kill some of their cap space.
     
  9. clarence lui

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    Folks, before writing off Bateer for whatever reasons, just think of what Charles Oakley have done for the Knicks. Yes, he's slow, has no ups, no range and only 6'8"/6'9". But what he lacks he more than made it up with hustle and a HUGE heart. If you had seen him play against the US and other teams in the WC, it's hard not to see him become at least a good NBA role player. Come on, if Joe Klein and the likes can hang around the NBA for so many years, what do you think? Honestly. Besides, does anyone seriously think you can only succeed in basketball with all the right physical attributes? Or did you not think?

    By the way, calling Bateer Chinese is no less annoying than calling a French person English or something like that. He's Mongolian, descendant of Genghis Khan, folks.
     
  10. Htownhero

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    Why does he play for the Chinese national team?
     
  11. clarence lui

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    The same reason Michelle Kwan's skating for the U.S.
     
  12. Htownhero

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    Michelle Kwan was born in Torrance California, so again, why does Bateer play for China and not Mongolia?
     
  13. clarence lui

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    Sad part of history: Mongolia was carved up into Inner Mongolia & Outer Mongolia between Russia and China. Inner Mongolia has become part of China and Bateer is an ethnic Mongolian from Inner Mongolia. He must be ambivalent about being called Chinese...
     
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    Technically then he is Chinese, correct? So I guess it's not like calling a British person French then.
     
  15. clarence lui

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    I'd rather not go further into politics, but Mongolia is technically occupied territory, much like Tibet and Xinjiang. I'll leave it at that whether you get it or not.
     
  16. Htownhero

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    Yes I get that he is a Chinese citizen like I said in the beginning.
     
  17. clarence lui

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    You are absolutely correct right from the beginning - he is a Chinese citizen that's why he's entitled to play for China. Meanwhile, just try to understand he's proud to be Mongolian and it was NOT his people's choice that they became Chinese, at least for now. Only time will tell if they get the sovereignty back for their homeland.
     
  18. Htownhero

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    I understand and respect that.
     
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    Maybe some crappy Taiwanese, who thinks the Japanese invaders are holy angels, think like the way you described, but:

    Don't you pretend you know Bateer enough to claim that he's not a Chinese at heart. If Bateer doesn't want to be a Chinese he can immigrate to outer Mongolia, an independant state now.
     
  20. zhd80132

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    clarence lui, are you a Mongolian, or do you live in inner Mongo? How could you draw your conclusion? Please don't mislead people by your imagination.
     

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