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Serious Inquiry about Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vstexas09, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. Morlock O

    Morlock O Member

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    HAHAHAHA No Jeremy Lin Thread can stay serious at all!!!

    it started well... but well then came the trolls hahhaahaha
     
  2. Fair Dinkum

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    Yeah, had the same happen to me awhile ago.

    Freakin geniuses!!!
     
  3. Fair Dinkum

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    The hate is strong in this thread.

    Post the right amount of logical reasoned arguments and the the 'hate reps' gonna flood in from the deep recesses of their troubled minds!!!

    BWAAAAHAHAHA! (evil laugh)
     
  4. TTNN

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    actually, the very second game of the season, Lin almost got a triple double. He got 21 pts, 10 reb, 7 assist. This game was listed as Lin's 5th best game this season by CSN.

    However, right after that, the infamous quote of "no democratic basket ball" happened...................
     
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  5. meh

    meh Member

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    So if I understand you correctly, so if Jeremy Lin sucks at something that other players on this team also suck at, then one cannot criticize him for his sucking? What is this, American public education? Where you're only held to the standards of the worst, rather than try to strive to be the best? I would certainly like to think a player making $8mil is held to a higher standard than players making $1-2mil/yr.

    For the money Jeremy Lin's making, the Rockets will be able to retain Garcia or Brooks, Robinson, James Anderson, and Greg Smith. Whereas all those players have a high chance of leaving in order to clear room for Howard. If you start a thread in GARM asking whether people would like to trade Aaron Brooks, James Anderson, Thomas Robinson, and Greg Smith for Jeremy Lin with 2yr/$17mil on his contract, you're not going to like the response.
     
  6. TTNN

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    Don't really know that average PG in NBA is a dime a dozen...............
     
  7. TTNN

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    For eFG%, Lin was 49%, compare to Harden's 50.4%, it is a 1.4% difference. Lin's "mediocre" defense at least shown his effort compare to Harden. And talking about taking care the ball, Harden is leading the league in TO total this season.
     
  8. Doppleganger

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    Threads like these have been going on all season. Lin is the Rockets most popular player; more than the rest of the team combined. As expected his Tim Tebow-esque popularity brings out all the haters.
     
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  9. meh

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    I really like how you basically ignored FTs as being part of the game. If Lin can get to the rim at a rate that has him shooting FTs at 10 a game, believe me all Rockets fans would be praying to his awesomeness. Even at 49 eFG%.

    And love the whole "effort on defense" statement. Because who cares about results when it seemed like Jeremy Lin tries? At least Harden has the excuse of carrying the load on offense to explain his defensive difficulties. What's Lin's excuse?
     
  10. RedEyesKirby

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    If people choose to think Lin is bad even with a bigger sample size, then not even hard fact stats can change their mind
     
  11. seahawk

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    Lin appreciation thread turned into Lin bashing thread.
    Lin serious discussion turned into bashing.
    Any Lin thread will bring out the evils and his supporters are so busy to defend him and become the battlefield of both side. No exception.
     
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  12. mike_lu

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    If you call 18/8 per 36min over the last 2.5mths, shooting 44/40 pathetic, and need a butthurt cream for being called out on your hate threads (see below) regarding Jeremy Lin while pretending to be a Rockets fan

    - If you only really care about one Rox player (whoever it may be) then are you really a Rox fan? (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=238313)

    - On what team, league or planet would these stats not win you the ire of every single fan? (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=238257)

    - It's ok to criticize Jeremy Lin (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=238335)

    Then ... you need to find better gif files ...

    OR

    At least come out of the closet and be yourself. Change your moniker to "HateJLin7" ... be a man, do it and be truthful to yourself. Hiding is for toddlers that cry, have snort over their face, and use nappy cream.


    Oh, and join date May 2013. Ha!

    You mean you joined after the Rockets season ended, only write posts and threads bashing Lin, pretend to be a Rockets fan with a moniker "Roxlove", and posts a couple of childish gif files? At least learn to post some meme files with original ideas. Googling and pasting existing gif files is just so out ...
     
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  13. Karolik

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    He just needs to show up next season, play above his contract in the regular season AND the playoffs, and there will be no more need for any inquiries.
     
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  14. Roxlove

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    :grin:
     
  15. TTNN

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    Well, I was replying a post regarding "They criticize him for his poor efficiency, mediocre defense and not taking care of the ball. ". You can't randomly take my word without looking why I'm saying that. I'm not doing a comprehensive Jeremy Lin analysis or report, I can't cover everything in every discussion to be correct.

    I'm not arguing with you regarding FT, I agree with you in that part. Maybe I wasn't taking that as consideration as efficiency, since quite some FTA was from a failed FGA, but not counted in FGA, but you still need to take a possession to do that.

    On the other hand, I don't really like the "At least Harden has the excuse of carrying the load on offense to explain his defensive difficulties." Bball is a team sport, you really should not have one player carry the whole load of for the team, I think Harden is doing too much, he is acting both as SG and PG, and yet not fully utilize Lin's strength. He should trust his teammates more, and save some energy in the defensive end. That would help the team much more than him trying to carry the load for all the offense, and left the team 4 to 5 in the other end of the floor.
     
  16. pwnyxpress

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    No, you're not understanding me correctly. My comments about the team sucking in those aspects too were just dicta. See how I pretty much agreed with you on TOs and defense? Saying he needs to improve on those things? Yeah...awkward...I didn't say he should not be blamed at all because his teammates are just as bad. Just saying they all sucked at it. Is that somehow...factually incorrect?

    And where are you getting your numbers from? Lin counts $8.3M against our cap. Garcia and Brooks if retained for next yr = $8.9M. I assume your list of TRob and GSmith and Anderson are just a list of 2nd players that could be paired w/ Garcia or something. Your grammar is confusing me here.

    Anderson + GSmith + TRob + Brooks for Lin is sort of a wash for me. I don't think I would feel that different about either. You're assuming too much when reading other people's posts. I don't care if Lin is moved or not, if it is for the right deal. I'm just saying arguments that he wasn't efficient when he was pretty efficient are wrong. And I personally don't think his contract is that bad or that good of one. It is sort of market value. Just because you can find a bunch of better value for K players doesn't change that point. That would be like me saying X is average, and you saying, but look, Y and Z are above average! Yeah, no crap.
     
  17. bball_lifer

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    Fact is, Lin is a marketing tool, and his contract makes him untradeable, so hes here till 2015, get used to it.
     
  18. lfw

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    Hilarious that Roxlox makes the above bolded thread and then basically only posts about Lin. I guess that question was rhetoretical? :grin:

    I'm waiting for my snarky gif, Roxlove. LOL
     
  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Seriously? Lets see. Here are some PG's that are comparable to Lin (13/6):

    - Raymond Felton (14/5)
    - Mo Williams (13/6)
    - Darren Collison (12/5)
    - Jose Calderon (11/7)
    - Tyreke Evans (15/3)
    - George Hill (14/5)
    - Brandon Knight (13/4)
    - Luke Ridnour (11/4)
    - Nate Robinson (13/4)
    - Ricky Rubio (11/7)
    - Jeff Teague (14/7)
    - Jameer Nelson (15/7)

    This is not even including PG's that I consider better than Lin without going into star/superstar territory, such as Lowry, Lawson, Conley, Holiday, Walker, and Dragic.
     
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  20. iJHolmes

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    He is a marketing tool, nobody wants lin for his skill, hes an average point guard. they want him for marketing plain and simple. however i dont think that makes him untradeable. a team who needs the marketing i think will take him since you arent really losing out skill wise or gaining by taking in a average player
     

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