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Serious Discussion - what could we trade Tmac for...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, May 1, 2009.

  1. the_hustler

    the_hustler Member

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    Leeb.. dont think they wil do a major shake up... after the round 1 success. .highly unlikely..

    PS: like your posts man.. you are very very sane.. unlike a lot of ppl over here..
     
  2. HorsetonRookies

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    TMAC+AB=>AI+K.Brown
     
  3. leebigez

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    If u call getting out the 1st rd and getting mauled in the 2nd successful, then we need to raise our standards.1st success for a older team like houston is not acceptable. They need to put a legit threat to win the title on the floor. If u just be realisti they don't matchup with La and Utah. Not to mention portland team has a really high upside because of their youth. I don't know if they play portland again next yr if they can beat them. You have to make sure u put the best team on the floor that can win the title.Will that previous scen.erio I mentioned do it? Don't know, but I know I would rather have jackson-maggette-turiaf possibility vs artest-wafer-hayes trio. The jackson package gives u a versitile big, a gutsy sg, and a foul drawing wing. That's what the rox need more than anything is a guy that can get to the line. In 31 mins, maggette got to the line 8 times per. You bring that off the bench along with the shotblocking of turiaf, and u really have something.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Right on LEEB !

    The goal is the championship, not the 2nd round......this team is gritty but still inefficient and has 2 defensively oriented wings.

    I would rather have 1 defensive wing and one offensive wing....get some variety and be able to pressure teams with offense too.

    The Lakers series will be tough, they have efficient offensive scorers up and down their roster....will the Rockets be able to score enough to keep up?

    I hope so, but .....

    DD
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    If we trade McGrady...

    1) Trade him to the East
    2) Get a backup for Yao
    3) Trade him before he gets back on the court

    Anything else goes...
     
  6. rocketman101

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    i guess my post didnt get through to sum

    if you trade tmac, you take back salary, you add that salary to the current roster with a resign artest and von and resign scola next year with lowry , that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the lux tax limit.

    the money tmac makes now, will go to the current roster to keep it intact
    and since they past the first round, expect raises for EVERYONE

    tmac will be released or traded for expirings also plus maybe a low paid crappy backup center like a prizbilla.(not him but the same quality)
     
  7. BoomShakalaka

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    this is what I prefer, you don't need stars
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I disagree Rocketman.

    I don't think the team will keep Ron, unless they beat the Lakers....

    I think the team will look to trade him in a S&T type of deal, and will look to move McGrady for a 2nd tier star player whose team is financially strapped.

    DD
     
  9. thacabbage

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    I don't think this matters too much. He's pretty much done as a significant threat in the NBA.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    If at all possible, you want him out of your division, and hopefully out of your conference.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Why? He is not capable of leading a team anywhere. Trade him for the best deal regardless of where it is...

    DD
     
  12. Rokman

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    I am in complete agreement with Matt. I think all other ideas of trying to trade a 23 million dollar expiring contract is ridiculous. We need that money off of the books!

    The Rockets need to get their spending down to around $50 - $55 million in contracts. $75 million in player contracts is outrageous. Look at what Von Wafer is making next to McGrady. Are we concerned about McGrady not playing? No. Morey finds an NBA vagabond who gets paid 1/26th of what McGrady makes and has filled in well. There are tons of great players out there who have not been given a chance to play and I believe Morey knows this.

    The only player i can think of right now that I would love to see on this team that we would have to trade for is Rip Hamilton. He is the ideal Adelman type player. Constant energy, never stops moving away from the ball. Hits the running mid-range shot and keeps the defenses scrambling at all times. He will be expiring soon as well.
     
  13. rpr52121

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    Why? I never understand when people are like it is "too early to discuss this or deal with this?"

    It is not like we, the posters here or the fans of the team, are playing in these next 4 to 7 games against the Lakers (and hopefully some other team to be named later), and have to focus on that task. We are the fans. We will root for our team, watch the games on the edge of or seats, and rain tears of joy, pain, or disappointment depending on the outcome.

    We just like to discuss Rockets issues, news, propositions, etc. Is it really that hard to discuss about the now (Laker's series) and the future (offseason) at the same time? You know Morey and all his staff are working through some of this information and trying to figure out who we should target in the off-season or draft RIGHT NOW, and are waiting until later.

    Why can't we just discuss those issues, especially if people are willing to discuss it seriously?
     
  14. t_mac1

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    if he's relatively healthy, he can still do some damage (it wasn't like he was completely healthy in 07-08 and he was still 3rd team all-nba).

    if he goes on a contender where he's more of a 2nd option/playmaker, tracy can still be dangerous.

    once again, we know this microfracture is non-extensive. i would like to see how his rehab is going (remember dwade said the first time he thought he was ready was when he jumped for a dunk during practice during his rehab that he thought he was ready) and how he looks in preseason.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Are you going to leave the board when Tmac gets traded? I think he is done....are you a Rockets fan or a Tmac fan?

    DD
     
  16. leebigez

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    I don't think u waste yrs waiting. I think Yao has 3 more yrs at this level before he kinda be like Big Z in a way. The rox need to do what they can to stay even or ahead of utah,portland,denver,sa, and dallas and they need to catch La, cleveland, and orlando. They need guys that can play in and out the offense. They need guys that can attack the rim, fill the lane, cut to the hoop and also defend their position.
     
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    I'd love to see what Hamilton can do in Adelman's offense, but I don't see him fitting well with either of our current point guards. My guess is Brooks would be traded if Hamilton is brought in.
     
  18. legend215

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    Yeah I'd love Rip here also. Definately a perfect fit and he doesn't seem to slowing down with some of the numbers he put up in the second half of the season.

    He's no longer expiring though, Detroit extended him earlier. Add to the fact that after Rip (11.3) and Tayshun (10.3), the next highest salary is Kwame's at 4.1 there's just no way that a deal gets done to match or come near Tracy's 23 mil. Unless Dumars has an Isiah moment and includes Tay also :D
     
  19. leebigez

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    That's a question I would like ask a lot of fans. That's a tinman special. I'll be herefor sure. I don't think tracy will be healthy until decembber 2010. That surgery takes right at 2 yrs for the most part to get ur confidence back. Given his age and yrs of service plus position, it doesn't look good. Could he come back? Yes, but he's going to be a 15-5-5 type of guy. Whomever signs him, if u pair him with a small 2 like gordon,ellis,eric gordon type, he'll be fine because he's a really good passer and understand angles well. Tracy is a pg for all intensive purposes and if u allow him to run pg on offense and hold 2's on defense, the team would be fine.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    is that a question you like to ask just b/c you don't agree with my assessment? :rolleyes:

    personally, i think tracy is done with the rockets. i think he WILL be traded. if i was TMOF, i'd be gone by now.

    but nah, i'm too busy increasing my post count to beat ya in game threads :(
     

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