Serious Discussion - what could we trade Tmac for...

well if the chances of a healthy Tmac resigning with them are worth the risk, then they'd get to pair a dynamic tandem of Amare/Tmac, which is scary

Houston get to rent-a-Shaq for a title run for a year or 2, which is scary too....

 

Hey, condescending rickp, all 3 of those guys were on the trading block last season and parts of this season. Hinrich is making too much to be Rose's backup and Deng has become unpopular. As for Noah, everyone was getting fed up w/him (from fans to media to the coaches), he may be a playoff hero for the steal and dunk, but no one, not even Chicago considers him indispensible.


Rose, Thomas, Miller, Salmons and McGrady w/Gordon first off the bench would be an improvement to what they currently have. That's 5 starters w/lenght and ability to handle the ball. If the Bulls want to keep Gordon, they need to get rid of some guys on that roster.


Perhaps the Bulls insist on Landry or even Dorsey, instead of Cook/Barry, but you are a fool if you think Chicago's brass would not even be interested in attaining McGrady. Many in Chicago have wanted him for a while, even as recent as last season.



If you think I do not add anything to the discussion, ignore me, I can do with out your Kobe-like dismissive attitude. I noticed you chose to single me out when there are PAGES of others trading Kobe too. Why did you even open the thread, the title was very CLEAR about trading an injured McGrady.

 

remember tmac has the hottest expiring contract of the decade...whether he plays or not is another idea and its barely relevant.

remember we also have brent barry and brian cook expiring contracts. although scola, lowry, landry, yao, are also expirings we are not going to be trading them away.

I think

tmac(23 mil)
barry(2 mil)

for

steve nash(12 mil)
jason richardson(12 mil)
jared dudley(1 mil)

 

by the way, I have this feeling there are a few idiots who keeps on saying 'OMG NO ONE WILL TAKE TMAC AND HIS MASSIVE CONTRACT!!!"

but the reality is--other teams LOVE HIS CONTRACT. THEY ONLY WANT HIS CONTRACT. THEY WANT HIS CONTRACT AND NOTHING MORE. TRACY MCGRADY'S 23 MILLION EXPIRING CONTRACT IS THE HOTTEST TRADE COMMODITY OF THE DECADE.

 

Shaq will make about 3 million less than T-mac. 3 million doesn't sound like much when you're talking about $20 million contracts but for a team (phoenix) that's looking to trim payroll, there's absolutely no reason to do that deal. The only way this deal would go down is if Tracy has to retire due to his injuries and his contract will come off the books one year after his last game. In which case Tracy's contract becomes the best commodity in the league because it would be instant cap relief.

 

I think the smart move would be to just wait! If he is no longer to wear the Rockets uniform I wish him the best but we will move on. What we need to do is entertain the thoughts of a trade but we do NOT need to just jump and pull that trigger. We did that with the Pippen trade and it got us a pile of scrubs. This is not what we want. This team as it is now has just given the so called Best of the West a run in the playoffs to seven games. We don't need to stand still but we also Do Not want to be in any rush to trade Tmac's contract. If the guy can get healthy and is currently working out with Tim Grover like he says then he can definitely be an asset on this team. We definitely don't need him to be the leader. We definitely don't need him to carry this team anymore. What we need him to do is finish games off with Yao Ming. I definitely think he can do that. If he can't well we were probably going to trade him off for some second tier scraps anyways.

 

Dude, calm down! Don't take it so personally. You are right, your trade proposal is definitely not the most unrealistic in this thread. You are also right that the Bulls have offered each of those players in trade proposals at one point or another. However, those players have only been offered by the Bulls in connection with obtaining a HEALTHY superstar. For instance, the Bulls put together a nice package comprised of some or all of those players in an attempt to trade for a healthy (pre-eye injury) Amare Stoudamire.

My point was more about what the Bulls would be receiving (an injured player who probably won't play more than 20-25 games next year) than their willingness to part with those players for the right package.

And please, please, please don't compare my attitude to that of Kobe's. NOBODY on this board deserves that.

 

If the deal made the team better.....I would do it...yes...

Say for instance someone offered Lebron for Yao......I love Yao, but would have to do the deal because Lebron is the best player in the game.

If someone offered Wade for Shane...again.....love Shane but I would do the deal for Wade.

It is all about the Rocket's team for me....I love our players, but I love the team more....

DD

 

Actually, I think if Tracy's injury is ruled to be "career-ending" (by an independent, league-appointed physician), then T-Mac's contract only counts HALF against the cap and the luxury tax. However, and I'm not totally sure about it (but I think it's in Larry Coon's FAQs), if the Rockets trade McGrady, his new team can't get that cap relief.

 

Salary dumps = guys like BDavis, Kamen, Crawford, Brand, Maggette, Curry etc etc et alii but it does include guys like Granger, Kevin Martin, Deng, JSmith, Paul, West.

TMac offers a team a get outta salary cap Hell op if the Rox are willing to take back salaries for players they really like. Might BDavis/Kamen/Gordon = TMac/Lowry? Maybe. Moreso IF DM the GM could then flip BD (to GS? Mags/Crawford - BD/Cook???) [or Philly? BD/Cook - Brand???) something like that.

DM the GM has already had feeling out discussions about McGrady, and McG's prognosis etc is available to others. Do I know this for fact? No, I know it for truth.

Let's see what develops after we put the W in whipping the Lakes in a few hours.

 

You know people dont understand that. I'll trade anyone if it made the rockets better. Hell, i think battier and barry for marion at 9m makes the team better to me, but of course i can hear marion isnt a good defender or doesnt offer intangibles or is a chucker or loser or nothing without nash or the countless amout of exuses made.

 

Not Marion, he is not a good complimentary player, and another player who thinks he is better than he is....

Now, Jamison...that is another thing all together...



How ya liking Scola these days Leeb?


DD

 

Trick question: Wade for Yao?

 

That is a tough one....not sure about it.....Yao to me is a huge mismatch every single night....but his injuries have me worried.

So, I will pass on answering this...as honestly I don't know.

DD

 

So, where might you position AJ? 4? 3? And what might AJ be like by the time his inflated contract deflates in the Summer of '12???

 

NO TEAM WANTS TMAC...

 

I would put him at the SF position, with Yao and Scola on the front line.....

The thing you have to remember is that cerebral players are effective for longer than guys who rely on athleticism...that is why Stockton and Kidd were still effective as their careers wound down and Francis was not.

Jamison is a VERY smart ball player, who is very efficient.....he has several productive years left.....

DD

 

Bulls wanted McGrady even w/his chronic back issues and Amare has not been the same since his microfracture surgery. And yet the Suns were being offered Garnett for the guy. I still think McGrady is a very attractive bit of trade, if not the player then the huge salary dump after next season.

LOL. Okay, peace. That was definitely over the line. We all want to improve the Rockets, but lately we have been underrating our resources, just like others have underrated our team. GO ROCKETS!!!

 

exactly they want his contract. so you and everyone else who don't understand basketball and it's salaries please read and understand this thank you

 

Trade TMAC for Joe Johnson or future first round draft picks.