Serious Discussion - what could we trade Tmac for...

Morey hasn't done max contracts because he hasn't had a chance to. He started out his GM career with two max contracts already on the books. His philosophy of only getting those underrated, "best bargain" players is more out of necessity of building around Yao and McGrady IMO.

I think Morey won't hesitate to give a max contract if the right player becomes available (and the "right" players are traded). But you're right in that he won't jump the gun and hand out massive contracts to just anyone. At least I hope not.

 

how about this we sign allen iverson and antonio mcdyess in the off-season now i know ppl say he is a cancer but i believe if he wants a championship houston is his best bet.. he can start at shooting guard until t-mac comes back from rehab... i love von wafer but if we get A.I we wont really have more money 2 resign wafer but we got james white... now we had interest in mcdyess earlier in the season so im sure morey will go after him.... now look at how our lineup would look and let me know how we wouldnt be able 2 contend.... brooks, A.I, artest, scola, and yao as the starting 5..... lowry, james white, battier, landry, and mcdyess... now this will only work if the rockets can play team ball which they can with only one thing in mind A CHAMPIONSHIP RING.... t-mac comes bac and we basically have an all star team AI, t-mac, artest, scola, yao no team will be able 2 stop us... i hope morey makes these moves i mean if the lakers have kobe gasol bynum odom ariza... and they make it work just imagine this team 4 a championship? i believe our rockets team can also co-exist.... wat do u guys think??

 

AI, are you serioius? you think he's money ball type of a player, doubt it. mcdyess on the other hand could play behind yao and contribute both at the 4 and 5, he would be someone morey would be interested in IMO.

 

Alvin, I like wafer a lot, but corey is a better player bigtime. Corey may be trigger happy, but he's very,very efficient. I mean anytime u can take 12 shots and get 20 pts, that's pretty good. Jax and ron are the same player to me in a sense. Ron is more the brute while jax is more athletic and longer. Jax is also a better playmaker and shot maker. Turiaf gives the rox a bigger guy to guard the aldridge,gasol types if coach wants to go that route. Normally, scola and landry struggle with the same player. Turiaf gives the coach another option without having to bring in hayes and kill ur offense. Plus in 2010 if scola is demanding more than ur willing to pay, u let him walk and start landry of turiaf. There are a lot of reasons to make this deal.

 

mcdyess will be a good choice as a backup c/pf...
I dont think we will sign ai...
But if we sign ai, I cannot imagine he with brooks at the same time. XD
I will use AI, Artest, Battier, Scola, Yao as start lineup.
Mcdyess, Landry, Tmac/Wafer, Brooks/Lowry come from the bench.

 

One thing that I think we all as a fan base might be underestimating is the willingness of teams to take on T-Mac's contract. A great deal of the board (myself included) thought that Raef LaFrenz and his gigantic expiring ($12M) were going to be an asset at the trade deadline for Portland, and there were no takers. There might have been some extenuating circumstances behind that situation (Portland's excellent financial situation, Kevin Pritchard hate) but no one grabbed him. There could be scenarios where McGrady is offered and no one bites, or the right trade package is never agreed upon. However, I feel confident that Morey will engineer the shrewdest trade possible, with maximum financial and roster flexibility core concerns.

 

Maybe, but 2010 is a much better free agent offseason target than 2009.

 

we can throw the mid level at him and see if denver matches. of course that would mean not resigning ron.

i think the rockets will be too busy working a mega trade for tmac to negotiate with FA's. including our own. the first thing the rockets need to do is get the best offer they can for tmac. depending on the incoming players and their contracts, the rockets can then decide what to do with their own FA's, and possible other signings.

they should keep all options open when talking about a tmac trade. there should be no guidelines for a return package given to possible trading partners. just say "we have $23M coming off the books, what will you give us for that?" take the best offer, then fill in the blanks with free agency.

i've been predicting for a while now (in my sig) that the warriors will be our trading partner. turiaf is just as good of a shot blocker as bird man. he even has a good mid range jumper. then we probably can have our pick of their wing players.

 

I was watching some of T-Mac's old magic games against the Lakers. What a beauty. I can't imagine what we could have done with that old T-Mac in this squad. We would take down the entire NBA.

 

Yes, old tmac made other team threat but this is history...
Lakers fans may still remember this.
They still said no tmac, no threat in lakersground...

 

wont know until we see the teams that really tank next year, the ones who will be rebuilding or shutting it down midway through next season are the only teams we'll be dealing with

 

TMAC+AB=>AI+K.Brown
We want AI instead of TMAC and Brooks,we want Brown to help Yao

 

AI is free agent. No need to do trade...
If we sign AI in MLE, it will be difficult to resign Artest...

 

i agree. it would be best to trade tmac during the offseason, which will be hard b/c teams want to make sure he's healthy enough to play and play at a decently high level.

the good thing about trading him early is that the team is not going to have the constant questions about tracy b/c those can be distracting. the team wants to continue to improve and i think having clear minds going into next year is ideal.

again, it's really tough right now.

after seeing how we struggle without a playmaker in the portland series, knowing morey, i think if he does trade tracy, he def. wants another guy who can be a legit playmaker (at least stephen jackson if we trade with the warriors). if morey can't pull a playmaker, i doubt he trades tracy at all. we'll see.

 

Excellent observation imho chenjy9.

I think if there were anyone Morey may go after, it would be consistent with his previous actions - low profile, under-the-radar-, perhaps even favoring YOUTH, value-for-the-buck kind of players. In this vein, I think Morey is an excellent GM just from the mere standpoint of basketball as a business.

Trust me, it SUCKS (as in Peter Vescey reporting) SUCKS to be stuck for year's on end with overbloated rosters of overpaid contract players. You wanna see rebuilding? Look at the Knicks of, oh, this past DECADE!!!!!

That said, I think Morey is also not stupid about trade value, and T-Mac, even a hobbled T-Mac has trade value. Trust me on this too. Dig up Antonio McDyess post his first knee surgery and you'll see what stupid teams offered for him. Sadly, in the NBA, there is a "greater fool" theory and I honestly think T-Mac can still command some good trade value in return for those desparate enough to still see him of old in his glory years.

Let me say that I think T-Mac did great for Houston in the years he was here. Yeah, sure he couldn't take us past the first round, but he sure gave us founded hope and something to cheer for. And you know what? For the most part, he DID deliver. We had more than respectable seasons injuries notwithstanding. But much like how every dog has their day, I think the days are numbered for T-Mac from the mere fact that the NBA is indeed a business. Morey would be derelict in his duty as our GM if here were to NOT entertain all options of trading him....

Can you imagine DM NOT thinking about who next to add in lieu of T-Mac should we take the Lakers to 7 or, heaven forbid, we WIN this series????

Food for thought.

theSAGE

 

I think you're forgetting that the first player Morey went after as GM was Rashard Lewis.

 

Hmm..Rashard would be nice..he can go back to his SF position.

 

I'd roll on it, too - but IMHO GSW insist Crawford be attached to the deal. I's still say YES, but look to flip him. Perhaps with a carrot like Landry. I'd look for Bidrins instead of Maggette, and/or to flip Crawford to Philly or Clips.

On (by) Novemebr 1 I want a clear upgrade at the 1 and a solid 4/5 to complete this roster.

Sounds so easy.

 

You really think K-Mart is available? Maloofs will trade him when they can save millions and get a passel of young comers in a deal. If that happens it ainta happening from H-Town.

 

Ur not getting a 23 yr old big in the deal that's a double-double. I picked Jackson,maggette, turiaf. Crawford is viewed as a guy that can help monte play off the ball more.