Serious Discussion - what could we trade Tmac for...

I don't think it would be a great idea to wait for a lottery improvement when Yao is not a lock for a resigning...

 

why don't we just wait and see on mr mac

 

If we trade T-mac, we will either get:
1. an overpaid star.
2. several overpaid players.
3. a decent overpaid star.
4. a bad overpaid player.
Nobody's is sending anything of value, unless they are rebuilding. Unless we get Carter, Redd, T. Chandler, David West, R. Jefferson, some combination from the clippers, or some combination from the wizard, I don't see any chance of us trading Tracy.

I don't believe New Orleans will stand put after that atrocity and the Wizard would be stupid not to trade one of their stars.

 

Why don't we wait and see how McGrady plays?

There can be 2 results:

1. He plays really good and is back to at least being in 2007-2008 form. He plays within the system and can still give you 22-5-5. If he is healthy and motivated, he will truly make us contend against the Lakers next year.

2. If he isn't really playing good, we can either let his contract expire or we can trade him for a good player because of his expiring contract.

I believe we should keep McGrady and see how he responds.

 

I consider Yao a lock for signing; the only question is for how much. Les is not going to let his cash cow go and unlike most players, loyalty and integrity is VERY high on Yao's list of virtues. He knows that Les will spend money if Morey believes it will make us contenders, Houston has a huge Chinese population, he does not need or desire increases in marketing popularity, and the love between him and Houston is mutual.

 

That's cuz its hard to get unbiased conversation in the garm now. I've posted a lot in this thread cause igts about hoops and not name calling. I went back and watched some of the gsw games I had on the hard drive. The more I look at it the more I like the jackson,maggette-turiaf for tracy deal. It makes sense for both teams.

I like it even more because its a win-win for both teams. The rox get a hard nosed, shot maker with championship experinced guy in jackson. They also get a relentless rim attacker and finisher in maggette. Turiaf is the 4/5 that has a mid range jimmy, high energy shot blocker. The warrior get roster and salary releif. Ellis is the pg in a sense along with crawford and azuibuikke. Randolph and wright can man the 4 and 5 along with biendrens. They have another lotto pick and if the deal is done in the summer, midseason they could move that contract like toronto did with o'neal. Making that deal lets artest and wafer walk, but jackson-battier-maggette trio is better than artest-battier-wafer trio. Plus turiaf really seals the deal. That would be a team that could matchup with any team. Maggette is the kind of guy that would keep the rox out of scoring droughts because he's always attacking the rim.

 

SHHHH...don't you know, I get pounded for suggesting Maggette....



DD

 

it's ok to trade for a huge contract using Tmac..but Morey's gonna make sure first if that player would contribute big time.

 

Morey doesn't do max contracts or jump the gun. His general trend has been to get underrated players or sleepers for cheap prices. If those aren't available, he will wait to see what's available and what will best help the team without needlessly blowing the budget or screwing over the budget for years to come.

 

BTW,

I hope we somehow get Bird Man....his deal is up in Denver....he would be GREAT off the bench here in Houston.

DD

 

i hope morey gets a backup C + another decent playmaker for tracy though.

 

We can get bird man and joe johnson wait...is joe johnson a freebie this yr or the following?

 

Joe Johnson is a free agent in 2010

 

Devin Harris #34 PG
2008-09 STATS
PPG APG SPG
21.3 6.9 1.7

Salary 2009: $7,800,000





that's who the Rockets should go after.

 

i don't know if joe johnson is good enough to get the max, and he will demand the max. at his best, he's not even as good as the 07-08 tracy mcgrady and we know that tmac doesn't deserve the max.

 

at this point of Tmac's career hardly anybody wants him with his injury prone self. We just need to hope he resurrect his career.

 

I think the jackson-maggette-turiaf deal would be ideal. The problem with the isn't really a age thing as it is a atheltic/flexibilty issue. The rox pg's can't play with each other and their pf/c can't play with each other. Getting turiaf allows the coach the flexibility of not only playing turiaf behind yao and with mattchups to play alongside yao. He's a bigger body and better shotblocker than all three of their 4's. Plus he's a really good shotblocker.Jackson is just as good or maybe better than ron. He has some of the same coo-coo tendacies ron has, but he's also a fierce competitor and big shot taker and maker. Also, he helped a lot on the 03 spurs team. Maggette has flaws, but one thing u can't deny is a guy who gets to the ft 8 times a game in 31 mins. That makes yao a better player because now the bigs are in foul trouble. Jackson-Battier-Maggette gives the team a 32 minute a piece swingman rotation. U wouldn't think of this package 3 yrs ago, but this is a really good deal now.

 

Its nice the way you put it, but you have a 20m contract and you are just getting slight improvement if any.

Maggette as a scoring punch is something that wafer is getting pretty good at, and at a much lower contract. Wafer have the potential to be as good if not better than Maggette who is termed to be trigger happy and a ball hog by his teammates in a system of basketball that is shoot, shoot and shot.

Jackson and Artest, is a toss up, you rate higher of Jackson, while I rate artest as the better player.

Turiaf, is the only player here that i really love to add to this roster. At the very least, he have good size and his shot blocking have been going up. A good back up for yao. But his rebounding stats is on the low side.

Thats the problem with me with this trade, using Tmac as a bait to trade for a back-up center who actually plays PF?

There got to be a player somewhere with good upside and a teammate with bad contract. Or a good player in a team that is wanting a change. Or a situation rox can take advantage of.