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Serious Discussion - what could we trade Tmac for...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, May 1, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    we'll see next yr.
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    We do not need Ellis or Maggette. Ellis has some integrity issues and Maggette is over-rated. I said we can make a stab at Wade, but Joe Johnson is the realistic option. Wade however is someone worth going over the cap. We actually need a backup center immediately. That one is a much more pressing issue. We are going to be successful whether or not we get another scoring option this offseason, but Rockets need someone more behind Yao.
     
  3. stroker

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    However it's done, the main focus on a deal for McGrady or letting his contract expire should be for a shot blocking 7 foot or taller big with long arms and good rebounding to counter the Laker's abundance of lengthy 7 footers. The team has to built with having a front line to contend with the Lakers and it starts with Yao's backup at center.

    Backup center is what the real position of need is and I'm talking making another 7 footer with shot blocking and defensive skills. THAT is what is missing and needed to advance past the Lakers and however the team does it, they should use T-Mac to attain a backup for Yao that's a player that alters the opposition's shot selection when they drive into the paint. Someone who will reject Kobe, Gasol, or Bynum. Basically a younger version of Mutombo is the only player the Rockets should be looking at because until that happens, we will never get out of the Western conference unless the Lakers have injuries.

    Tyson Chandler (if his health is good...what was his injury anyway?) or Turiaf from Golden State should be the targeted players IMO or a trade for the biggest shot blocking, 7 ft. FREAK in the upcoming draft.
     
  4. diegot143

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    wht could we do go get wade... Wade would be perfect for our current team, fill the 22 million dollar hole with wade and we are champs. Morrey find out a way to get Wade plzz
     
  5. BMoney

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    There are a few guys that have the same age/injury/soft issues as McGrady that I want no part of- Baron Davis, Michael Redd, Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, most of the Golden State Warriors. If I were Morey I would do what could to get Chris Bosh. I think it is easier to get wing scoring than a skilled big. The Raptors would only trade Bosh if he made it clear he was leaving. The Rockets can offer financial relief with McGrady and a nice player in Scola, or Landry. Maybe the Rockets could make a bigger move and try to get Calderon along with Bosh and have a package of McGrady, Scola/Landry and Brooks for their uptempo style. I would rather not lose Scola, or Landry, but I just think that Bosh would be a perfect fit around Yao.
     
  6. m_cable

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    If there's a slam dunk type deal to be had in the offseason (like Artest for picks/filler) then it'll get done. But I think it's more likely to drag out to the trade deadline. I think Morey is shrewd enough to not make a rash decision. I'm sure he'd be more than happy to let Tracy's deal expire (and have a moderate amount of cap space in 2010) than make a mediocre move.

    Also they're going to want to see what becomes of Tracy's rehab. If he comes back strong that will affect his value. If he's out for a certain amount of time then insurance starts kicking in and paying for most of his salary. And if worse comes to worse for him and this is a career killing injury, his salary would come off the books a year after when he last played, which coincidentally enough is right about the trade deadline.
     
  7. leebigez

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    I think its going to happen this summer. People that keep saying he has no value, really dont understand the value of a expiring contract. People need to also understand this team has major holes that are covered up in the regular season by playing hard. Thats not such a bad thing, but this team needs to infuse more young talent to makeup for the decline of Yao in the next couple of years. They need slashers and mid range guys along with some size across the board. V.3 wont agree with me, but i'm look squarley at Deng. I know for a fact they wont to get into the Wade sweepstakes in 2010 and although they can keep deng, they're going to move salary off the book and go for 2 guys maybe. I dont want hinrich really, but if a 3rd team could get in the deal like minny, that would help alot. Deng to houston, tracy and mike miller to chicago, and hinrich to minny probably works all away. That way chicago gets rid of 2 long contracts, but get miller who expires after next season, the rox get a young productive swing in deng and minny gets a pg. The rox might even can get rodney carney thrown in or something. They resign wafer, let artest walk or resign wafer and move shane for a resigned marion at 9m per. Now you have 2 guys in marion and deng that play well off the ball and can finish with wafer coming off the bench. Then they could sign petro,magliore,mihm, or mbenga for 2m as a backup to yao. Either way, they could and need to do something despite people thinking they have arrived.
     
  8. TXRoxBBall

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    I think if they get blown out in four games that may effect their strategy and make them more aggressive in the offseason. If not, I think they will be more content to go into the season status quo and see what happens with Grady. My vote goes to 2010 and Joe Johnson.
     
  9. joesr

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    For you guys saying keep him as an expiring think about this.

    I agree with the OP saying Wafer will probably not resign if Tmac stays. And I want Wafer to stay, lol.

    Talking about which, that dude will probably demand a bit :(
     
  10. drobsnightmare

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    I'd trade SheMac for a poke in the eye and an advanced case of chlamydia.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You don't keep him as an expiring that is stupid...you trade him for some talent.

    You don't go into next season with a $23 million dollar hole in your roster.....SHEESH !!

    Riley,

    I do think he will be traded, whenever Morey can get a good deal, I think he will try in the offseason, and if no deal then by the trading deadline....

    I expect a very active offseason this year.

    DD
     
  12. burnshroom

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    The more I read these threads the more I am happy that NO ONE here runs this organization.
     
  13. xiki

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    Is the value greater this summer - or in February?

    When is the biggest hole identified? Perhaps on court; perhaps by in-season injury?
     
  14. Tuan

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    I dont want guys like Gordon or Deng, what this team needs is a wing who can create their own shot.

    A big man I would want to back up Yao is Marcin Gortat from the Orlando Magics. I am not sure what type of money he would get this summer though.
     
  15. mdrowe00

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    This is it.

    You don't make a move for the sake of making a move. If it's about "fits", you're a lot better off, with an established core, of getting guys in here that are hungry for the opportunity without overspending.

    I like that...
     
  16. larsv8

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    Say no to guys like Baron, Maggette, Ellis, Arenas, etc.
     
  17. UrlPerlMonroe

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    Dwayne Wayde!
     
  18. xiki

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    Does McGrady return and reestablish his on-court value first?

    Does McGrady stay until a February fire sale for maximum return?

    Does McGrady move to save $s for the team receiving him, but leaving the team that trades for him short, waiting until February?

    It seems to me that there exactly two (perhaps three or four?) teams with which to effect a deal this summer:

    Brand and Dre (SnT) for McG and Lowery - or -

    Ellis/Crawford/Maggette or Bidrins (much better with Bidrins; but if Maggette could be flipped for a 4/5 big, ie Brand or Kamen, yes Kamen) for McG/Brooks/Cook or Landry (as in Mag or Bid) or

    Milwaukee? Clips? Both of those are reaches IMHO.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Xiki I think that depends upon the motivation of the team trading for him.

    If they are financially strapped, they may look to jettison some longer contracts of 2nd tier star players like Maggette and Ellis for example....

    I would roll the dice on that deal....

    DD
     
  20. larsv8

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    I will never understand this obsession with Maggette. Yes he has an upside with his penetration and his ability to draw fouls, but he is a selfish player and is injury prone. I have read you mutiple times dog on McGrady for both of these things, why do you think he those two things will change here?
     

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