This might be helpful since you don't know any Methodists, Presbaterians, Unitarians, Episcopalians, etc: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/21/where-major-religious-groups-stand-on-abortion/
Since you aren't the person who is being required to do something (watch videos, attend meetings, "take a little time") it might be hard for you to understand what you are requiring someone who already has to go though a very painful and traumatic situation. Guessing you wouldn't require these of victims of rape or incest. But continuing on... Do you think others should also be as accepting of compromise? For example, the gun control question. Should those that oppose gun control be less "all or nothing"? Should they be be willing to compromise, like willing to have certain weapons banned as a compromise? Or more stringent background checks, longer waiting periods? Or... is it a case of "if we give in to that, then they will then take away this" ?
What weapons? Tanks? Howitzers? Flamethrowers? But OK, certain limitations are already in place re: abortion.
I've very pro-life, have even donated some of my hard working money for the cause among other things. I just rather the federal government not get involved but the Christian right(can't stand) refuses to follow their dogma and instead they love to get involved in politics. you could say i'm a federalist who believes dualism is dead and I don't like that because the forefathers wouldn't like it. what they designed was genius and thanks to slavery and the civil war it's died. it's time to start moving back toward dual federalism, give the states their rightful power. too much centralized power is very bad imho.
There are many reasons to ban weapons. But that isn't the question here. The question space ghost asked was why people don't compromise. And specifically, why those on the left don't want to compromise.
So they don't want to compromise because guns? Separating the abortion business from the other things that get government funding by moving that "business" to some other building and letting PP stick to the business of removing underdeveloped humans from their mother's wombs seems like a reasonable compromise.
Play dense. At least I am guessing you are playing dense. Planned Parenthood is a complete health care provider. And yes, one of the health care services Planned Parenthood provides is abortion services. Abortion services that are legal. And women, especially women of lesser means, need a safe source of abortion services. While abortion services are only a small percent of the important health care services Planned Parenthood provides (only 3%), these efforts to deny women the right to choose, and the ability to go to a safe place to get such health care services, is all your attempting to do by defunding Planned Parenthood.
I don't want to speak for FB or even speak to the conversation you're having with FB. I'm talking about a related phenomena of using one's political stance on abortion as a Christian litmus test. You say that's not what you're doing and that's fine. But, it's come up a lot in Christian circles ever since the p***y grabbing thing made feminism a political issue again. Knowing us, we probably wouldn't agree at all on what then should be done, but I do agree with you on what an unfortunate polarized position we're in with pro-lifers not content if any abortions are allowed and pro-choicers not content if any limitations are placed. Both rightfully fear a slippery slope if they give an inch. Why compromise? What they do is perfectly legal. And all the attempts to limit or defund them are not aimed at compromise but at achieving a de facto ban on abortion, employing means that will probably be struck down by courts. I see no reason why PP should want to make that sort of compromise. It's better for them to fight to the last.
So Catholicism is what you measure ideological purity by? That is really, really strange. Are you Catholic? Why do you assume I require ideological purity from others? In no way did I say anything like that. I said there are many different nuances and beliefs to all Christian denominations however the one thing I personally have observed is they all believe life begins at conception. There may be some out there that do not believe that, I do not know as I can only go by my personal experiences and conversations with people from other denominations. As for the death penalty? I am neither pro or anti death penalty. At least the people who get the death penalty get a trial to prove their innocence while an unborn child who has committed no crimes gets the death penalty without a trial.
I am sorry about your mother. I lost mine too a few years ago so I know how you feel. My mother was the biggest influence in my life. She is the one who led me to the Lord.
Thanks. She had a very full life and I miss her everyday. I would often ask her about spiritual matters, and mostly she would just ask my opinion, and why I was asking. She never commented, and it was obvious that she wanted me to come to my own conclusions. I really enjoyed her sermons that always seemed to come from a bible study type standpoint. I liked them because it helped my understanding by providing context. That's why I'm not really part of any denomination at the moment, and enjoy bible study the most. It really helps my understanding grow. If I hear about a sensational pastor, I'll check it out. My nephew is going to seminary classes now and working for the Presbyterian church in Houston or actually Clear Lake. I'll often check out when he speaks, and enjoy that. I rarely go to church these days. I think organized religion has greatly damaged Christianity. I think their entrance into political matters is one of the prime ways it has hurt Christianity. Most people who claim they are atheist are turned off by Christians who show hatred towards homosexuals, women, will claim that God blessed America by allowing Trump to win, and that kind of thing. If those things were what I thought Christianity was, I would hate it as well. But I don't believe that's what it is.
He (I assume it's a "he") contradicts himself all the time. I sincerely believe that he should see a psychiatrist. The fellow needs help. His "opinions" are all over the map.
For some reason I thought you were Roman Catholic, as I said before: I was wrong, I'm sorry. My point is that you are questioning where FB's beliefs come from and that some how he probably has overwritten what his faith says about abortion and made the claim that you had never met a Christian who holds this belief as though it's inconsistent with Christian theology. In response, I provided a link to a recent Pew research article that indicated that numerous mainline denominations recognize a woman's right to choose. The tenor of your original post indicated that you can't believe, due to never having interacted with christians who's church "teaches"an alternate view of when life exists and would indicate that FB's view is somehow influenced by his political leanings. I responded because I belong to a faith tradition/denomination along with other mainline denominations that believes differently.
Actually a typo on that first post, supposed to say pro-choice. Nice catch, I missed that probably typing to fast.
